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Requested move

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The result of the proposal was Move to [[Anthem without a title Parsecboy (talk) 13:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This song needs to go back to its original name. It was originally Anthem without a title, which described it quite accurately: it's an anthem, and it hasn't got a title. Someone then got the idea that it was a song named "Anthem Without a Title", and moved it to Anthem Without a Title, which would be correct for a titled song. Quite recently, another editor decided that since Dutch sources referred to it as "Volkslied zonder titel", that the article should be named that. All that is is the Dutch for "anthem without a title". No one has been able to show any official source that gives this song a title at all, much less indicates that the appropriate title for a song which was written in English by an English-speaking author from an English-speaking island is in Dutch.—Kww(talk) 15:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, sound reasoning. Fram (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch is the official language of the Netherlands Antilles. And since it has no title, I think it's better to move it to 'Anthem of the Netherlands Antilles'.--Westermarck (talk) 17:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem with your second suggestion, the first is irrelevant here. We are not translating anything, we are describing it. Any descriptive, neutral title in English is fine by me. Fram (talk) 18:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

English is also an official language of the Netherlands Antilles, as is Papiamentu. Depending on which island you are one, one of those two languages will be the most commonly spoken one. There's a fairly obvious message being given by only singing our anthem in English and Papiamentu.—Kww(talk) 19:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do English (unofficial) sources on the Netherlands Antilles call the song? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Variations on "Anthem without a title". Some capitalize it like it is a title, most don't.—Kww(talk) 20:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support then; Westermarck's suggestion is also acceptable. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support English sources use "Anthem without a title"; wikipedia should do the same per WP:UE.--Rogerb67 (talk) 03:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Untitled?

I'm pretty sure this is called "Himno de Antias Hulandes" or "Hymn of the Netherlands Antilles". Why is it called "Anthem without a title"?????? OblivionOfficial (talk) 02:29, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source for that? - BilCat (talk) 02:38, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]