Talk:Van Nuys station

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Thruway bus service

The Van Nuys Amtrak Station is served by various Amtrak thruway buses, including the 1C route that runs between Torrance and Bakersfield and the route that runs between Santa Barbara and Los Angeles Union Station. // Internet Esquire (talk) 03:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name

The signage on the station building shows "Van Nuys Train Station" so there is no need for parenthetical disambiguation to distinguish the article from the Los Angeles Metro station. Platform signs simply show "Van Nuys". Since the current Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations)#Disambiguation stipulates that the suffix should be lower case, unless it can be proven that the title is a proper name, "Van Nuys train station" would be the appropriate article title. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per the naming convention, the name should be Van Nuys station (Metrolink) - as Metrolink is the system disambiguator and has the most service in the station. It's the least confusing. To call it merely a "train" station does not help the reader figure out what's going on. Lexlex (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No comments, so did it. See if it feels correct. Lexlex (talk) 12:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 September 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Van Nuys train station → Van Nuys station – Standard name per WP:USSTATION - "train station" is nonstandard. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 11:28, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535: See Van Nuys station (disambiguation) :: there is need to distinguish it from a bus station. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:25, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Anthony Appleyard: Indeed there is. However, there is no suitable disambiguator that both distinguishes this from the bus station (geographic ones don't work because they're nearby) and is simple (this station is served by multiple operators). Thus, the logical solution is for the bus station to stay at Van Nuys station (Los Angeles Metro), and this article to Van Nuys station. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:28, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - there is one - the one currently used. --Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, the current name is not in compliance with WP:USSTATION, an established and widely-used guideline. "train station" as part of article names has been depreciated except for cases where it is part of a proper name. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please continue reading the guideline you are quoting - Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations)#Disambiguation - when there is need of disambiguation, the station should be disambiguated by system. See Crystal City station (VRE), so following that guideline it should be Van Nuys station (Amtrak and Metrolink). To the closing admin, please note that the proposal was said to be following WP:USSTATION, when in-fact it didn't fully. --Gonnym (talk) 22:50, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The proposal follows WP:USSTATION perfectly well, the guideline respects WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.Cúchullain ^t/c 22:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It actually doesn't, as I've shown above. The guideline clearly states that if a name is shared by two different systems, they should both be disambiguated by the system name. Since both of these names are disambiguation (i.e. "station" is not part of the name), WP:PRIMARYTOPIC has nothing to do with this and this is an issue of WP:INCDAB. --Gonnym (talk) 13:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That’s the solution if there’s no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Here, the train station is primary.—Cúchullain ^t/c 16:38, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support, with use of hatnote to the Orange Line's Van Nuys station (Los Angeles Metro). There is little question in my mind that most of the readers looking for a "Van Nuys station" are looking for the train station over the Orange Line "station" (which is basically a glorified bus stop!). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:33, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The British English expression is "railway station". Or try "railroad station"? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but this is an American train station - and as I stated above, "train station" and similar are depreciated for US stations. WP:USSTATION lays out station naming guidelines for US stations. This is an identical situation to North Philadelphia station and North Philadelphia station (Broad Street Line) and should have the same solution. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If "train station" is deprecated, then what DO we call an American railway station to distinguish it from a bus station? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:27, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Both train and bus stations just use "station" in the title, with parenthetical disambiguation where needed. I will link to it once again: WP:USSTATION. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in a WP:TWODABS situation.[1]. It also better fires WP:USSTATION and lets us avoid this unwieldy and idiosyncratic disambiguation.—Cúchullain ^t/c 20:29, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC prevails, and we'd run into problems for the "train station" disambiguator once the Orange Line is converted into light rail in the far future. Sounder Bruce 00:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Should be in compliance with WP:USSTATION which works very well. Lexlex (talk) 14:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please update the photograph in the infobox

Historical photos are fine for the body of the article, preferably in the section dealing with history, but the photograph in the infobox should show the present configuration of the station, i.e., with the center platform.47.139.46.124 (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]