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Line?

What line did the accident occur on? --M1ss1ontom a rs2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 04:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Line 1, look at this [1], first paragraph. Bye! --Emijrp 08:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Current system?

Does it use a third rail or an overhead wire? Which current system is used?

overhead wire

--81.202.158.49 07:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Line 2

Why is there no line 2?? Georgia guy 00:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The branch line from Ademuz to Betera was originally line 2. It was later merged with Line 1 when they extended the services from there to Villanueva de Castellon. Valenciano 17:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The line 2 was the branch from Empalme to Lliria (his colour was the green) but about ten years ago FGV decided to explote it as a line-1 branch and it hadn't any relationship with the services to Villanueva de Castellón (the first train arrived to Villanueva de Castellon in 1917). New line 2 its been building from Orriols in the north to Nazaret in southeast as a tramway —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.203.153.148 (talk) 17:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

according to Urbanrail.net the real metro of Valencia:

Line 1 Empalme - Torrent 13.4 km (6.7 km underground), 14 stations, metro service (all the rest of line 1 is just only a suburban railway service, similar to the commuter line of the rest of the world. northing more)

Line 3-5 Metro service just in 14 km. all the rest is a suburban commuter service with the largest part with single track.

T2 and T4 are just normal tramways.

so Valencia metro have less than 28 kms of Metro.

all te rest is a joke.

UrbanRail.net doesn't say anything about those lines not being a metro line in fact quite the opposite as on this page it distinguishes between metro lines and light rail/suburban raillines. [[2]] and you could say the same about many other suburban metro lines in Europe - the met line in London is mainly suburban and runs on lines previously used by commuter trains. As lines like line 1 run metro trains they're considered a metro. I don't understand the rest of your points and - no offence - you should get a better english translator as they don't make sense in English. Valenciano 17:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move to metrovalencia

Should this be done? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:59, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--dual signage-- All Metrovalencia stations are signed in Valenciano. They are not dual langauge as incorrectly stated in the main article. I am able to supply photo evidence if necessary. Reference to <www.metrovalencia.es> will provide access to the full list of stations in Valenciano, together with access to the downloadable maps, all of which show the stations in one language - Valenciano. Johnfromcabanyal (talk) 21:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--history-- The full history of Metrovalencia begins with the building of the lines in the late nineteenth century. I have access to documents covering this and can add this history of required. Johnfromcabanyal (talk) 21:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm reverting again this change which is suppressing information with the incorrect claim that the info is "false." On the contrary, it's exactly what the sources say. The ABC source is even entitled "La Generalitat retira el castellano" (The Generalitat removes Spanish) and speaks of "«normalización lingüística»" (linguistic normalisation.) The Las Provincias source also speaks of linguistic normalisation and says that the changes were based on a number of criteria, among which was "«dando preferencia al uso del valenciano»." (Giving preference to the use of Valenciano.) See also this source where the PP, the main opposition party in the region criticises "la supresión del castellano en la nomenclatura de las paradas de metro" (The suppression of Spanish in the metro station names.)

Accordingly, I'll restore this content. This should not be changed without discussion. Valenciano (talk) 09:45, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Valenciano, you are stating that the Spanish has been totally removed from the MetroValencia stations names which is totally false. You just need to check out the names and you will find Spanish names like Fuente del Jarro, Alameda or Colón which can be easily translated to Valencian, but they keep their name in Spanish. Furthermore, there are other Spanish names which are kept because cannot be translated like Tomás y Valiente or Machado. Moreover, plenty of names are bilingual Spanish/Valencian. Therefore, Spanish has not been removed from MetroValencia. If you check the original source that you added ^[1], you will see that 21 changed their name with the aim of simplifying them, improving their identification and adapting them to the urban changes in the city of Valencia and the metropolitan area, and only 2 out of 21 were changed from Spanish to Valencian, which is not totally removing Spanish names from the 138 stations.

As you state, the main opposition party criticised that change with a false statement. Check the stations names again to verify it. Following that the right-wing press published that statement. Wikipedia is not based on the opinion of a certain political party. Wikipedia must only report what the reliable sources say; it must not publish what its editors just believe is true. 79.143.132.225 (talk) 16:00, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I'd assume that Colón has remained because that's the name of the street in Valencian too (Carrer de Colón, seen also in the nearby Mercat de Colón) but Alameda could of course be Albereda. So okay, let's agree an alternative wording here. The fact is, based on the sources, that "linguistic normalisation" and preferring Valencian were the motivations so we can go with that for the wording. Valenciano (talk) 16:09, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've changed the wording. Have a look and see if you agree. If not, let me know here what the issues are and what you'd like to change and we'll discuss. As the sources mention linguistic normalisation and favouring Valencia as the criteria, I think that's relevant. Valenciano (talk) 16:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Las 21 estaciones y paradas de Metrovalencia que cambian de nombre" [The 21 Metrovalencia stations that will change their name]. Las Provincias (in Spanish). Spain. 1 December 2021. Retrieved 19 February 2022.

[1] "Las 21 estaciones y paradas de Metrovalencia que cambian de nombre" [The 21 Metrovalencia stations that will change their name]. Las Provincias (in Spanish). Spain. 1 December 2021. Retrieved 19 February 2022.

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