Talk:United Arab Emirates/Archive 1

Initial comments

4.04 million was the population in 2003. I have made changes to the year 2005 and corrected to 2003. this can be verified from census data published by govt of UAE on their ministry of planning website http://www.uae.gov.ae/mop/UAE_figure/UAE_%2003.htm

I perosnally have no problem in having this data included, however I just wanted to put out a fyi that the 2003 figure listed on the website is an estimate, and not from a census. If I'm not wrong, the last census in UAE was in 1995.
Similar to this, the US Department of State has a population estimate of 4.3 million for UAE in 2004 [1]

There are two different population estimates quoted

The body of the article says 4.04 million (2005), but the sidebar says 2,563,212 (also 2005). What gives?

• The CIA world fact book gives the sidepanel number but they say that the estimated population in 2005 including non-nationals is 3.44 million. Perhaps the source of the contributor was 4.04 million.--Adam 20:12, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

In my research, this contradiction exists between the CIA Factbook, the UN, and the government reports. Hundreds of thousands of migrant workers are brought in from Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc. under private or pseudo-private contracts for commercial work (construction is a large industry). These people basically live in the country for 9+ months, but of course are only on a work visa. I believe 4 million is the UN number (who tend to watch migration patterns) and 2.5 is the government number.

Vector4F 06:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The UAE's population can't possibly be less than 4 million people (including non-nationals), as Etisalat itself has 4 million customers. Therefore, the UAE's population must be more than 4 million people.--Maulik2005 13:53, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

According to an estimate on the US Department of State website [2], the population of Dubai in 2004 was 4.3 million. The most recent population statistics that can be found on the UAE government website is an estimate from 2003 (NOT a census). Since the US Department of State estimate is more recent, I am going with that and have included it in the article, and have provided a link to the specific page on the US Department of State website. --Jibran1 22:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Some population figures from various well-cited sources for such figures:

• Population Reference Bureau: 4,618,000 (2005)
• United Nations Population Division: 4,496,000 (2005) / 4,657,000 (2006)
• UAE Ministry of Planning: 4,320,000 (2004)
• World Gazetteer: 3,870,936 (2005-2006) (based on 1999 government estimate)
• CIA Factbook: 2,602,713 (2006)
• CIA Factbook: 4,444,011 (2007)

How come Dubai is now the largest city?

http://www.citypopulation.de/UAE.html

Abu Dhabi is the largest emirate, but Abu Dhabi city isn't the largest city... WhisperToMe 04:20, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Abu Dhabi is the largest Emirate and city. Abu Dhabi city isn't just the island of Abu Dhabi it extends to Alshahama and further from the east, to the end of Musafah on the west and to Almafrag to the south. And thats what I'm sure about I'm not sure if it reaches further than that but it will due to the growth of the city and the country. Alromaithi 03:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Border mysteriousness

Quoth the article:

The border demarcation treaties of 1974 and 1977 between the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia were never made public. Therefore the exact border of the two countries is only known to their governments.

This is ... unusual. Does anyone know why this is being kept secret by the two governments? --Jfruh 01:06, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

That is a bit strange. Is that still accurate? *conspiracy*

As far as I know it is correct that only the governments know the exact location. The reason for this I can think of is "Why should the common people know that?". I guess this belongs to their official policy that nobody should know more than absolutely necessary. I lived in this country for about 2 years and I can tell you they like to keep things secret what means power to them. You also find also not much information for a arabic subjects in the internet because openness means loss of power. -ThorstenS 07:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi guys. I have found the onshore border and have a copy of the 1974 demarcation. Just so you know the onshore co-ords are 51.5906 24.2494, 51.5906 24.1233, 52.5811 22.9358, 55.1372 22.6281, 55.2028 22.7006, 55.5000 23.5364, 55.5694 24.0000, 55.8500 24.0167, 55.9000 24.2167, 55.8333 24.1972 (WGS84)

I will try to integrate this into the main text ASAP. this should be correct as it was supplied by our boundary consultants! -- GeologyTom 16:06, 11 October 2006

Hi Tom, I've had to undo your addition to the article for the time being as you shouldn't refer to a talk page from within an article, and also because that information would need a citation. Can you give us a reference for the information? Thanks. — Hex (❝?!❞) 16:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, will go off and read the etiquette pages! The source of this data is the "The Saudi Arabia - UAE Agreement of 21st August 1974" signed by His Majesty King Faisal Bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud, King of Saudi Arabia, and His Highness Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan, President of the United Arab Emirates. It's not published by anyone in theory, as neither country published it through their governemtn system, so I have no real great references than that. Could someone reccomend the next thing to do (ie publish on wikisource, or just remove the bit saying there is no copies of the agreement). Regards.--GeologyTom 13:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The Saudi-Iraqi neutral zone (1922–1981) and Saudi-Kuwaiti neutral zone (1922–1969) were also "private" matters.

Urhixidur 20:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I found that the border of the 2 countries is broken line in my atlas.. ? Izzudin 16:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Miscellaneous Topics

I would like to write a few words about some miscellaneous topics like Religious Freedom ,Labour Discrimination and Prostitution in the UAE. Would it be appropriate to mention it in this article ? 152.78.254.131 18:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I have written some words in the German Wikipedia regarding what you mention. Should be fine to write it here in the English one. Will you do a translation from the German version or do you have some additional information? -Toshi 10:12, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Wow ! The German version is certainly more elaborate than the English one. Can someone translate and merge the information onto the English version? Fitful 17:19, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't know German. I can try some online German-English translators. 152.78.254.131 17:30, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Can you write down your informations first. In case they are more compehensive then mine I can put them also on the German version. And later both can be merged together on each Wikipedia -Toshi 18:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

As these are potentially controversial topics, I need some time to research them before I can start writing. As I am presently busy with some personal work, don't expect anything too soon. I will eventually get around to writing it. 152.78.254.131 21:30, 22 July 2005

From time to time I move(d) sections from the Dubai-article which applies nationwide to the UAE-article. Today the labour issues for example -Toshi 06:42, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Why not keep the info on the individual page as well? It can't hurt (knowledge being power), and it actually will help as some people may not go to the UAE page, but will visit the Dubai page. Information on New York labor issues would be included in the New York page even if a similiar situation exists in other cities in the United States. To limit that information to the United States page only would seem to obscure pertinent information.

This page specifically mentions the sex trade in Dubai, and yet no mention is made of this on the Dubai page.

I think since the UAE are not that large as the USA and most of the topics apply nationwide (prostitution is also in Abu Dhabi very common) and the full text should be on the UAE page. Parts of the text which applies to Dubai must be of course found on the Dubai page, so I agree with you. The text can be identic in some cases on both articles but the sections of the text which applies nationwide must be in the UAE article. I am just afraid that all information are predominately found on the Dubai page since Dubai is often mistaken as the whole UAE.

See my last move of labour issues, this issues apply nationwide and is not a Dubai-related problem hence the main text should be found on the UAE page. In the Dubai article you can copy the sections which apply for this Emirate (in this case I think all) and add some additional Dubai-specific information such as more inspection of the authorities on the Dubai page. -Toshi 07:25, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Structure of the article

Is it standard in the English Wikipedia to separate the main article to many smaller ones? Example: In United Arab Emirates there are the remark under the headlines such as "Main article ....". But if I check the information here such as "Emirates" and then the "Main article" Emirates of the United Arab Emirates there is no big difference. In German Wikipedia the Emirates of the United Arab Emirates was a stub and had already merged into the main article and then deleted. Other example is economy. Some more information on the external article on the upper part and the other have has statistics from CIA World fact book. My opinion is the statistics should be removed (+external link to the fact book created), new information merged into the UAE-Article and then delete the "Economy about UAE"-article. Since I am not familiar with the English Wikipedia customs I'd like to get some opinions about it. -Toshi 06:39, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Duplicate links

The two external links mentioned at the bottom of the page: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/aetoc.html and http://www.country-data.com/frd/cs/aetoc.html#ae0056 contain the same material. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.35.193 (talk • contribs) 05:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

The Al Nahyan Family

Most people know that the ruling family of the UAE is the Al Nahyan Family. For some reason, the name seems to be Al Nahayan at several times in the article United Arab Emirates. Why is this? --195.229.241.181 13:55, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

The corresponding wikipedia article for Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan follows the spelling in this article (not my doing). You can usually transliterate an Arabic name to English in no less than three different spellings (e.g. Koran, Quran, Alcoran). Typically, I use the spelling found in Oxford reference texts. --Vector4F 06:54, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The correct spelling is Al Nahyan thats what's written in their passports. They are not the only ruling family in the UAE they are the ruling family of Abu Dhabi. As you know there are 7 Emirates in the UAE each with its own ruling family.Alromaithi 03:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

34th National Day

Happy UAE 34th National Day to all! --213.42.2.21 13:36, 2 December 2005 (UTC) December 2005 (UTC)

Human Rights and Labor issues NPOV

All Human Rights Part should be removed or implemented on all countries. United States , United_Kingdom, India ,... all of them have serious human rights violations (see http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/usa/index.html ) but we don't read them in wikipedia!

Human_Rights_Watch http://www.hrw.org do not list United_Arab_Emirates as a country with human rights violations.

Do we have to add all the ugly Human Rights violations that USA, Uk, India, Israel, Germany, nether land, Denmark violated too?

I tend to agree. Perhaps a single statement along the lines of "Some agencies/individuals/whatever have noted human rights violations..." along with a link to the side article. As it currently reads it sounds too much like someone standing on a soapbox. Kemperb (talk) 18:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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The sentence: The United Arab Emirates also lacks a fair immigration and naturalization policy. does not seem to conform to NPOV. Perhaps someone can expand this.--Adam 16:22, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I removed it. It is somewhat meaningless because it could be said of any country in the world. Almost every immigration policy is biased. UAE immigration is almost exclusively through sponsored, time-limited visas with classifications for students, special dispensation, business, and labor (all of them with an overhead fee). The UAE really doesn't give out citizenship, to my knowledge, except by native birth (no duel citizenship). --Vector4F 07:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The UAE gives citizenships to people who speak Arabic, are Muslims and had been living there for a long period of time. The UAE gives citizenships to people from Yemen, Oman, Iran and other Persian and Aftican descendants. Alromaithi 03:45, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

This is NPOV. A country with serious human rights issues that affect its international relations must have said issues documented - the UAE article has a section on human rights for the same reason China does. Interested2 02:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Human Rights violation is still in UAE, which should be mentioned in the page.

What a lovely Guest Worker program the UAE has. Disgusting, Godless.98.165.6.225 (talk) 06:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Racial Discrimination

Hii..absolutely love Wikipedia and the freedom it gives..

Can I write on the extreme discrimination which goes around here? Also unneccesary laws and extreme prostitution where teens as small as 13 yrs go?

Prostitution is illegal in the UAE. There is no such racial discrimination in the UAE constitution. The only kind of discrimination in the UAE is Cultural discrimination amd it's common in every part of the world. Alromaithi 03:52, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

but worse in some parts than others. 165.146.108.78 15:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Asians get picked on because they're passive, not to mention that in alot of cases, because they are poor they have no alternative but to leave their country and work in the Middle East, and the Arabs know this, and use it to their advantage. Arabs in western countries routinely cry foul of any hint, real or imagined, of discrimination against them. Yet they do it in their country of origin. Arabs who say it's not true are liars.Lastcharlie 05:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

LOL, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Well it's good to know that if i wanted to I could abuse anyone from India, Singapore, China, Israel, Japan, Korea etc because "they are passive". Now I know all those wars (ww2, sino-indian, indo-pakistan etc) never happened because "they are passive". I could go on but what's the point, I can only assume that Lastcharlie is projecting his own "group neurosis" (whichever group he self identifies with) on to others in a pathetic attempt to justify his own racist beliefs.

This is why wikipedia will never be a trustworthy resource...

By reading the comments some people made below, it seems they are only interested in promoting their own views on this country... "human rights" issues are now discussed in the 4th paragraph... although important it is not supposed to appear so high up in chain of information... you notice how the "human rights" issues in the "united states" article, as regarding guantanamo and the current lack of privacy and liberty are not even mentioned in the article at all...

Encarta = worth the money Wikipedia = should be sued and shut down... all biased info crazy people promote...

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.125.79.84 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Microsoft wishes that Encarta was as popular and as widely-used as Wikipedia. --AladdinSE 08:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

That's the Wikipedian mentality in a nut shell. Also, "popular" and "widely used" are no substitute for "accurate". Peccav1 20:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Child slavery

I returned this link Sport of Sheikhs - Emmy and duPont award winning documentary on child slavery in the UAE. The UAE always claimed it did not practice child slavery. Even after they changed the laws and promised to enforce them, evidence continues to emerge of systematic violations in the camel racing industry. This 2006 award-winning documentary is recent. They had video proof. Let's not whitewash it. --AladdinSE 08:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. But the article now says, "According to Antislavery.org, UAE has been found to use child jockeys in camel racing, violating both human rights laws and child sex laws." Unless they routinely force jockeys to have sex with camels, someone had better change this. Dan 07:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no info on the antislavery.org website about UAE violating child sex laws. The original phrasing was more accurate and comes from an HBO documentary (above), where supposed trainers admit trainers sodomize the boys. In the second part they show the butt of a child they purportedly rescued who claimed he was recently raped. I could not tell that, though I have no trained eye, and only viewed it once. Finally, the creators of the documentary apparently assert the problem has been solved. (see again http://www.ansarburney.org/videolinks/video-hbo1.html) This should be included, as it is the most recent update, from an apparently sincere source. Though in the format: it is reported...

Someone desided to delete this, will retry to add it.

My relative is a camel racer, he used to have child Jockeys'. When I asked him about the Human rights thing he told me that he saves the lives of these young children living in poverty in their home countries (Persia). He brings their whole family and gives them food and shelter. I believe it was a humanitarian thing. But the sport was dangerous thats why the country of the UAE banned the use of human child race jockeys. Instead my cousin now has a Mercedes Benz car key and presses the unlock button to activate the robot jockey. I guess this historic racing event became modernised with 21st century robots thanks to the Human rights organization. These robots sit just like a normal jockey with a plastic stick turned by a motor to whip the camel. This robot cost around $8,000 and was invented by a UAE national. Alromaithi 04:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC) [3]

^why does this happen? -anonymous

Arab League template

Is there any reason why this template should not be used? I noticed that it was reverted when an anon editor put it in. --AladdinSE 01:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Since there are no objections, I am returning the template.--AladdinSE 00:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Neutrality?

I am very concerned about the neutrality of the article, in particular the 'Human rights and labor issues' section. In my opinion, there is just too much UAE-bashing going on over there. An opposing side of the argument should be put in, in order to make the section more neutral. I request all you of reading this, to please review that section. I am half-tempted to put up a NPOV tag. --Jibran1 07:52, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Well...if you have verifiable proof to debunk the info given then why dont you put it up?Lastcharlie 06:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone please review the human rights paragraph...

As someone who's lived in the UAE for more than a decade i may be biased... but bias aside i still don't see the point of putting "Human rights and labor issues" so high up on the list... also it's very hard hitting from all aspects... "illegal sex industry"... the same could be said about every city in the US... what is the point of adding that? Will that bit of information help anyone make up their mind about the place? It might even put people off visiting... which would be a shame...

Oh and just to prove that this paragraph should be removed... "The United States Department of State has cited..." Since when was the USDOS a voice for freedom and liberty? I am sure if the issue was put to a vote people would have the entire paragraph removed or at least shifted to a seperate page altogether.

Let's keep this place as informative as possible without resorting to propagating someone's or some small group's spiteful agenda.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.202.188.231 (talk • contribs) 21:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

No country should be looked at through rose-coloured glasses. Why should the UAE be treated any different?Lastcharlie 06:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

--User:Nadirss

Yeah right, where are u from ? LastCharlie!!

Some one insists on removing the section, and since it has been flagged as requiring clean up for so long, I think this is justified. However, here is the deleted text until someone finds the relevent sources. Will see what I can find.

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Human rights

Main article: Human rights in the United Arab Emirates

Homosexual activity is illegal and those convicted of it are subject to jail sentences and/or compulsory psychiatric treatment.

Although the UAE government has made some advances in the protection of human rights, the U.S. Department of State notes in its annual report on human rights practices that numerous fundamentalist practices and policies exist to the contrary.

Guest workers are brought in from South Asia, and a common objection is that they are grossly underpaid as their passports are held by their employers. There have been many reports of unskilled workers getting underpaid, and complaints of segregation abound.

The UAE also does not allow individuals past retirement age to stay within the country without a job. Upon retirement, residents must return to their country of origin.

Discrimination in the workplace is common, prospective employers will specify religion, nationality (and even regional origin in some cases) and also specify the sex of required candidates within job advertisements. It is very common to have different pay scales depending on nationality and sex. There are positive discrimination policies in place also that require certain roles to be filled by UAE nationals.

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Triwbe (talk) 17:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Number of migrant workers

I've had a look at the 2003 Human Rights Watch reports on UAE, and none of them claim that 90 percent of the workers are immigrants from South Asia. According to http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/09/19/uae6388.htm 90 pecent of workers are migrants. There is no mention of the demographics of these immigrants.

Relationships with Mexico

Can anyone please inform me of their relationships with Mexico?

There is no known relationship with Mexico.Alromaithi 04:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Coat of arms

The link to the coat of arms of UAE at the top of the page leads to the coat of arms of Saudi Arabia. GilliamJF 05:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for this hint. I have fixed the wrong entry. -Toshi 11:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Supermarkets of UAE

Someone from UAE please check out List of supermarkets article and add a list for supermarkets from UAE. I have just added Carrefour.

Shijaz 19:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

huh??? --User:Nadirss

Update population

Data was released in July 2006 based on the 2005 nationwide census that puts the current population at 4,104,695. The CIA factbook is off by a huge margin and the page needs to updated to reflect this new data. I would do it myself but I'm not sure how to properly modify the country facts. Source: http://archive.gulfnews.com/nation/Government/10056248.html

Fourth richest country? And references...

The CIA list claims they are four, but on the wiki list they show up significantly lower - at 23. They also show up lower on the earthtrends site. Is CIA the most trustable source?

This article is kind of a mess, particularly the human rights section. Needs more references. Saying stuff like that really needs to be backed up by something. And why are there so many broken/pretend reference tags...? --Karafias 04:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi there...yeah, in away the whole page needs to be more organized. But as far as references for Human rights are concerned, you may look at Dubai and look at all the human rights and labour issues. You might also want to do a google search and help come up with some links and photos. And besides, you really have to be to a particular country for sometime, if you want to know what goes on there. I'll assume you havent been to or worked in the UAE, thats why what's written might look false to you. But infact, its all the truth. Thanks.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.26.206.130 (talk • contribs) .

Obviously, I believe it has some merit, or I would have removed it. Everyone has their own opinion of what "The Truth™," is but, everyone disagrees. It's human nature to distort facts to fit to our own point of view. Citing references and facts is how we keep wiki from degenerating into a personal soapbox. It may be true, some of it probably is true, but how do we know? I could add an "alien abduction" section, and claim that the entire UAE government actually came from mars. Without sources, it's just as credible as some of the sections in this article. I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm saying that sources must be cited for controversial subjects - i.e, secret prisons where they execute people. --Karafias ^{Talk • Contributions} 22:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, ok...I'll put up some references asap; but do help me with the search when you have time, just a couple of 'em. That way also you will know that its not just my opinion. ;) Secondly, could you revert the edit done by one Ffares on 15 Oct? He has removed one of the website references. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.26.206.129 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll help you to put up some serious human rights violations in Australia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.229.242.86 (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

Sure mate, go for it! :) Am sure theres alot already though, but i'd love to see what you could put.150.101.102.188 07:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

This is true that It is 4th Richest country & Nowadays it going for 1st Rank I mean try for that & look at GDP growth increases per year. It is not dependant on Oil.

Article said 3rd richest, I updated it to 4th as the provided citation claims. This section kinda got hijacked discussing references, but again: why does the provided link claim they're 4th in GDP per capita, whereas the summary box on the right at the top of the article claims they're 23rd for the same statistic? One of these is not like the other.

Update - okay, the CIA factbook is GDP/capita at PPP (purchasing power parity). Is the '23rd' statistic not at PPP? --24.107.177.15 15:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

PPP is total GDP. Per capita it is 23rd.--70.171.33.143 19:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Map of the individual Emirates

This country is a federation of 7 Emirates. The article needs a map showing the 7 Emirates and their territories. TiffaF 06:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Dubai is bigger than Abu Dhabi?????

The article about Dubai says it's population is 1,241,000 and that about Abu Dhabi says it's population is 1,850,230 so why the does this article say Dubai is the largest city of the UAE, not Abu Dhabi? Or is it because of the area? Well, it's the same, Abu Dhabi's larger!!! Even the Wikipedia's in the other languages say that... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.101.191.215 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I would like to think that it means Abu Dhabi Emirate. You are correct, Dubai city is bigger than Abu Dhabi city. But Dubai Emirate isnt. As to why Abu Dhabi has 1.8 mill. people is that it includes Al Ain and other small oil cities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.166.57.135 (talk • contribs) 12:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

In the infobox, it still states that Abu Dhabi is the largest city (It says capital and largest city), while in the demographics section, it says Dubai is the largest city. I was unable to find reliable population data. --Fjmustak 00:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Poor Page

This is one of the poorest country pages on Wikipedia. Anybody with the interest or the time, please choose a section, EXPAND and IMPROVE. "History" is in desperate need of some attention. Jaw101ie 20:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I fully concur to that view. I have never been in Asia and I have come across the page by chance today browsing the Qatar and surroundings... immediately the section on Human rights has struck me as something far too long and perhaps biased for article that should be the first information to anyone interested in knowing something about UAE. It might be mentioned, especially when referenced, but the way it is now it is like fist between eyes. Ruziklan 20:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I grew up in the UAE and work at Dubai Media City, there are few human rights here, the government openly supports employers over employees and Dubai is nothing but one big real estate project. The recent firing of CNBC Arabya employees [4] proved this. There's also a huge social imbalance here with 76% of the population being only men, this is because the country has strict Visa rules on bringing famlies, thus also promoting further prostitution. The govt also doesn't want single men (Bachelors) to live in central business areas and wants them herded away from main city centers like cattle, to promote a "safer family environement", and the list goes on.–..RadicalSatDude 20:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Ruziklan, the Human Rights paragraph is maybe a bit early in this article. But it doesnt look biased or long for me. Thats infact the truth. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.92.247.213 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

WTF? This is an encyclopedia, not a rant board. Human rights the second section? Gimme a break. Sure, UAE isn't spotless in that regard, but it is far better compared to a lot of the rest of the world, and especially in the region. Some expat probably just got snubbed at work and decided to vent. --SohanDsouza 14:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, i definitely support your saying that human rights should be left to the end. But besides that,this is an encylcopedia, so hence the need to mention that stuff. And just because much of what happens doesnt get printed in the media, doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Its all underhand. If the countries in the region want our skills, then let them treat us as equals..... Some expat? Nono, not just any expat; its normally an Asian(or sometimes african) expat that gets snubbed or kicked from his job. Who knows someday, even you or I might experience some racism some point in the future.150.101.102.188 12:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure I will, when I get back there. As far as slavery and flesh trafficking and the like, sure, there are some international legal issues there. But if expats want to be treated "as equals" in a foreign land, they are dreaming a pipe dream. People want the jobs, and pretty much know they know what they are getting into so they can have them. There is a nationality hierarchy, and the lower level nationalities will just have to deal with it until they are done accumulating wealth or until they decide it is not worth the indignity anymore. It's simple demand and supply. --SohanDsouza 18:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, yes, its that very dream which brings labourers to the Gulf. Many think that it will be an easy life,earning in Dirhams or Riyals, but only realise the harship when they are there. I think this nationality hierarchy thing should be done away with or atleast improved. Equal pay for equal work, whatever the persons nationality. But of course, minus the citizenship benefits, pension, etc. for expats. Anyway, whats written in the article has been written; what needs to be done is putting this section towards the end and also getting suitable references. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.101.102.188 (talk) 03:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

I completely agree...I will be removing it completely very soon and I mean it very very soon. Read the news and you will know why!! --User:Nadirss

Yeah, thats good to hear. But what will be you be putting in its place? Btw, i checked out Khaleej Times and couldnt find what your hinting on. So let us know why you'll be removing it soon.

Erm.

A Web site is campaigning to pressure the government of the UAE into signing up to International Labour Organization core conventions

on freedom of association (see [8]). Strikes and unions are currently banned in the UAE and many laborers are virtual prisoners, having paid huge agents' fees in order to obtain jobs and visas.

Erm? This doesnt seem right to me. It looks like an advertisement. Its related, but necessary? Methinks not. Samuel 14:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is an advertisement, don't you see the country page how it has been missed up. Those indians, with do all respect to their race, are sometimes stupid, they forgot those laws will be coming back hunting them one day. They ask more, they will get less. --User:Nadirss

Proposed WikiProject

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Western Asia at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Western Asia whose scope would include the United Arab Emirates. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

HUMAN RIGHTS

I found NO reference to human rights on this page. Have included a short sentence in intro, someone should add significant amount ot main body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noiseidea123 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

GDP

I think there is something wrong with the GDP, I was on about a month ago and i took it down, all the numbers have changed, also I noticed the GDP (PPP) per capita is ranked somewhere in the 20's but it's more than Canada's which is ranked as 7th. 74.97.84.20 19:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Even though with a reliable source, people are still arguing...Talk to the CIA FactBook Staff..They will tell you how they got that information. --User:Nadirss

Citation Needed Re: Countries with death penalty

Is the ILGA sufficient for citation? Is this a trusted/valid source for this kind of info? If so we can put this link in as citation. Regards, Vnv lain 03:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

You mentioned that UAE's GDP was the third highest in the Middle East, after Saudi Arabia and Iran. What about Israel? Israel's GDP is over 170 billion, putting it higher than UAE's. Please correct this. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.217.94 (talk) 15:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

President as sovereign of a Federal Constitutional Monarchy nation?

How can there be a President as the sovereign of a Federal Constitutional Monarchy system? It just doesn't make any sense. --203.15.122.35 09:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

That's how the government is..if you want to argue, open your own blog !! --User:Nadirss

He asked a reasonable question. He was not stating an opinion. The title "president" is generally reserved for the head of state of a republic.

The answer is that the UAE is technically not a monarchy but rather a federation of monarchies. Traditionally in such federations, the rulers of the federal subdivisions (emirates in the case of the UAE) have elected one of their number to be the head of state of the federation. There are number of cases of this in history, incl. The Holy Roman Empire (as Germany was then called), from which the Elector of Hanover (later to be King of England) got his title. Elector, because he got to vote for the Emperor.

To my knowledge, the President of the UAE is the only elective monarch to hold the title president. Malaysia is also an elective monarchy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bostoner (talk • contribs) 23:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

because the president is elected by the higher council of the rulers...

What on earth??

Someone has DELETED the whole human rights section!! Well, i wouldnt mind if it were transferred to the end of the article or somewhere later. But this is ridiculous! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.43.227.18 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Check the politics area!!! it is still there but it will be removed soon, take your opinion with you...and what on earth is wrong with you...You have a problem with the government not the people of UAE. So respect yourself ok!! --User:Nadirss

Hi Nadirss, well when i checked it that day it wasnt on. Only a few days later when i revisited, there it was! So ok i take its back. Btw, you're right i've a problemo with the government not the people. I respect myself and others. Do you? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.101.102.188 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

"I respect myself and others" do you, really? think about it. So why are you editing/whining/or whatever you are doing in wikipedia about a government and a country that you don't even belong to? do you call that respect? What really strikes me the most is that you people are complaining about this government and you know that this government has done so much to their people more than other governments who don't even give a dam.

Btw, I used to respect people but once you enter my territory and you show me no respect, I will never even think about showing you respect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nadirss (talk • contribs) 15:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, well, this government has done heaps for you but when it come to others people(outsiders), whatever they get depends on their nationality, race, skin colour, etc. And certainly no UAE nationality or PR, given to those born on here, those legally married to UAE women or outsiders living here much before 1971. You used to respect those on your territory; and thanks to most outsiders on your territory, you're one of the most prosperous in the region. Well, i respect you and your forefathers. But when your sons dont respect me(and my sons), i lose respect for your sons and maybe even you. 'Cuz, what the sons do reflect their upbringing. Oh btw, what about stateless Bidouns who have been languishing in the country without state benefits etc. Finally, 30+ long years after 1971, some Bidouns get their UAE nationality certificates. Ciao —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.101.102.188 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Just thought you guy should know: Wikipedia is not a forum, there. DDF 16:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree this is not a blog but I have to respond. You are wrong in saying that "this government has done heaps for you but when it come to others people(outsiders)". You are completely wrong,my friend. The UAE continues to support many countries around the globe. And it has done to outsiders more than its own people. Even India and Pakistan which you might belong to. Unfortunately, people don't read anymore. Just read this article and think | OLPC . It is really sad to see people like you slashing other governments without even knowing what they have done to you.

Nadirss 00:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Emirateslive Pictures

Hey there I added my link: http://emirateslive.blogspot.com/ to the general UAE information. It was deleted since you do not allow Blogs. You do have the guideline that Blogs are not allowed. I just use the Blog as a format to upload plain pictures. You should not judge the format in which users publish their content. Instead you should judge the content itself. And I do think that my pictures are a valuable addition to the page since they show the real enviroment in any day. Just because I am using the Blog format does not mean that it is a Blog with personal information. Larsdominic 12:03, 28 March 2007

Something of a revert war seems to be developing over this link - maybe it's time to discuss it and try to reach a consensus. Personally, I don't have strong feelings either way - I'd probably tend toward removing it, but simply because the pictures don't add much to an encyclopedic understanding of the UAE. I agree with Larsdominic that hosting on Blogspot shouldn't be an automatic criterion for removal in this case, since it is not a blog in the ordinary sense. Barnabypage 13:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Since larsdominic says "I added my link", I'd vote no. If it was worth having in wikipedia, someone else would have added it or reverted a delete edit. No one has. But many have tried to remove it. 195.229.241.181 08:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Where is the problem that it is my link? Does that mean it is not valuable? The argumentation does not make sense. Larsdominic 13:24, 20 May 2007

Lock has been established to protect the content

Editing “United Arab Emirates” article has been locked for unregistered and newly registered users. In recent month, most of unregistered users tend to visit this article to write baseless claims, which are one of the causes that lower the quality of this article. Attempts to fabricate and manipulate information to serve different propaganda have targeted the United Arab Emirates pages. In order to clean up this article and maintain considerably higher quality information, a mechanism was needed to prevent further vandalism attacks. Therefore, a lock has been established to this page. Please, if you would like to help us in improving this article, register first or let us help you editing this article.

Nadirss 17:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

As with Dubai, simply adding the template to the page does not itself lock it. I've removed the template. siafu 00:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

GDP PPP Per capita

Can someone please explain to me how this is measured? I mean, if you put in the massive amounts of foriegn workers into the calculation, you get a GDP PPP per capita at respectable $28K or so per person but not anywhere near the $50K or so often quoted.

What good is a per capita number if it doesn't measure the "wealth" of the majority of the people living in that country?

Majority of the citizens are wealthy, and the non-citizens are not counted in the country report. Non-citizens are about 80% of total population.--Herdtrid 02:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

This has got to be one of the worst country pages on wikipedia, a lot of whining from ppl non UAEans and a lot of silly defending from some UAEans, rewrite the whole page, probably by someone who doesnt have a vendetta against the country or by some silly UAE citizen there.

GDP will count everything produced in that country (by both nationals and non-nationals), and per capita is GDP divided by the population (I believe this would not include the non-nationals.) Thus, you get a huge number. Try looking at the GNI per capita which would only include income earned by the nationals (I believe). Brusegadi 18:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

neutrality tag

which part is biased? --lmv 28 may 2007

Demonym

What is the demonym of the UAE? Please add it to the infobox 82.16.7.63 21:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. Carson 23:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguating UAE emirates and capitals

At several of the talk pages for the individual Emirates of the UAE, queries or proposals have been put forth for having separate articles for the emirates and their eponymous capitals (e.g. here and here. As of now, two of the emirates have been disambiguated from their capitals: Abu Dhabi (emirate) / Abu Dhabi and Ajmān / Ajmān (city). If you are interested in discussing a comprehensive approach to the issue, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Asia#Disambiguating UAE emirates and capitals. — AjaxSmack 19:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahead? Behind?

These two sentences in the History section don't make any sense:

"In the early 1960s Dubai was ahead of all the other states even though oil was not yet discovered in its territories. Abu Dhabi was behind until His Highness Shaikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan became ruler of Abu Dhabi in 1967."

Ahead and behind in what ways? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.34.157.190 (talk) 05:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it is very unclear to what it is referring to. I would assume it means development; but since I did not write it, I do not know. It needs two things: better wording and a source. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 05:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Emirati Religiosity

Can someone point out the source for this chart? Per some quick calculations based on available (albeit somewhat outdated) data, I feel that the population of Hindus and Christians has been considerably inflated. I can provide some more information on my calculations if someone can point out where the source data for the chart came from. AreJay (talk) 03:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I actually have contacted the author of the chart, User:Moshin. After almost three weeks, I have still not received a response. I left another message today hoping to finally get a response. I told Moshin to change the graph so that it goes by that information provided at United Arab Emirates#Culture and religion. AreJay, do you think that information is incorrect? If so, can you change it so that if Moshin ever corrects the graph, (s)he will use correct information from the article. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 06:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I said "inflated" but my calculations were way off (I was comparing the known Hindu/Christian populations of Dubai to the population of the UAE at large). However, here's what the State Department has to say about the religion in the UAE:

Of the citizens, 85 percent are Sunni Muslim and 15 percent are Shi'a. Foreigners are predominantly from South and Southeast Asia, although there are substantial numbers from the Middle East, Europe, Central Asia, the former Commonwealth of Independent States, and North America. According to a ministry report, which collected census data, 76 percent of the total population is Muslim, 9 percent is Christian, and 15 percent is "other." Unofficial figures estimate that at least 15 percent of the population is Hindu, 5 percent is Buddhist, and 5 percent belong to other religious groups, including Parsi, Bahá'í, and Sikh. These estimates differ from census figures because census figures do not count "temporary" visitors and workers, and Bahá'ís and Druze are counted as Muslim.

I am okay with using "unofficial data" presented in the State Department's report because of the nature of census data and the skewed proportion of foreign workers in the UAE. This is not unlike other articles on Dubai and the UAE where data presented is often from unofficial sources. Thanks AreJay (talk) 17:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

But, if we go by the unofficial data then any data from ministry reports cannot be counted. As you can see, both the ministry data and unofficial data contradict each other. We cannot use both since then it would add up to more than 100%. Is there another reliable source that contains full data on religion? I would rather use one source that adds up to 100% than mixing two different pieces of data as given by the State Department. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 18:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I'm afraid not. I'll keep looking online though. The 2006 State Department report quotes numbers that add up to 100%. I'm not comfortable using this data though because of the way it's been worded ("Although no official figures were available, local observers estimated that..."). This would fail WP's standards for WP:RS. Until a reliable source is found, I think it makes sense to go ahead and remove the chart from the article. AreJay (talk) 21:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I replaced the graph with another graph using the information provided on the State Department's 2007 report. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 23:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Economy section

From the article:

"The United Arab Emirates is one of the most developed in the world, based on various socioeconomic indicators such as GDP per capita, energy consumption per capita, and the Human Development Index."

The HDI of the UAE listed here places it at 42nd place. That doesn't seem to qualify it as "one of the most developed" in the world, does it? And I'm not sure about energy use being used as a criteria, although it seems a valid indicator in many countries, energy rich places like Saudi Arabia have some of the highest per capita energy uses in the world, but clearly are not among the most developed. GDP per capita looks great on paper too, if it weren't for the large income inequality I suspect the UAE of having (it is not listed in the GINI coefficient article, but I'm pretty sure the huge foreign labour population are well below the average). So in short, I think this statement should be removed from the article altogether, the reader should be given the statistics and make their own decision on whether the UAE is "one of the most developed" or not. Branding it such in the article seems to be a little non-neutral. TastyCakes (talk) 00:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

GDP per capita

I have checked the CIA factbook and the figure for the GDP (PPP) per capita of the UAE is $37,300 (2007 estimate) according to their website. A lot of the articles about the UAE seem to be using the seemingly fictional figure of $55,200 quoted on the main article on the United Arab Emirates. Is that number taken out of printed version of the CIA World Factbook 2008?

VNeogi (talk) 09:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

The information is probably correct, but since it does not have a source we should not use it. We should probably go by what the CIA says: $37,300 for GDP - per capita (PPP) in 2007 (estimate).[5] --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 07:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

AED or Dhs?

Are we suppose to write ex: 400 Dhs or 400 AED? Which one is better? NoPity2 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Both mean the exact same thing. It does not matter which one you use. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Using AED would be more precise, since there is the Moroccan dirham as well. --IncidentFlux ^{[ TalkBack | Contributions ]} 13:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Attention

I have made some edits for English language clarity and sentence flow. I hope I have not stepped on any toes - I feel my edits have improved the overall legibility of the article somewhat. I regret to say this, but if I can't be a good man, at least I can be an honest one - I have been full-on DRUNK as I have made these changes. — NRen2k5^(TALK), 14:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

confusing line.

article currently reads "The UAE also does not allow individuals past retirement age to stay within the country without a job." Is it talking about citizens and non-citizens or just non-citizens? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.104.175 (talk) 16:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

It is generally meant to refer to non-citizens, specifically, Non- GCC citizens. I will edit this part soon, in order to make it more clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.23.98 (talk) 08:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The Coat of arms picture

Apparently the United Arab Emirates Coat of arms picture was deleted from Commons by Maxim because of: "Missing essential information: license/permission/source". If anyone could provide the coat of arms picture it would be much appreciated. NoPity2 (talk) 14:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Salam

this is farid ahmad afghan love to come to the UAE for the permenent leaving there love UAE once i came there for visit a year ago —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.71.220.202 (talk) 10:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Allah, Nation, President?

Should this be "God", Nation, President? Considering the phrase, on this page, is written in English?

Allah is the name of what they worship. God is not a noun, it is a proper noun, refering specifically to the Christian entity. To translate "Allah" is highly controversial and relatively misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.205.227.198 (talk) 05:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Your comment is POV, and your edit is inappropriate. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians also refer to God as Allah. The word Allah existed in Arabic before Islam was founded, though it referred to pagan gods. Muslims consider their God to be the same one that Jews and Christians worship.

I am not a Muslim, but I do have a background in linguistics. In scholarship, it is appropriate to describe such terms in the manner in which its adherents use it. BTW, "God" is not in the Christian or Jewish scriptures. It is the Germanic word that was used to translate the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek original. Bostoner (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

A Comment on History of UAE

I think there are some historical facts not mentioned about this beautiful arab country. One of them is that Iran is not mentioned among the countries that current UAE was once part of their territory. I think we arabs should mention these things explicitly since we are not afraid to say the facts and though some time iranians owned our country, but now we are an independent country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.88.155.131 (talk) 03:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

"Facts" on what bases?. Can you supply a reliable source?. From what I understand, some parts of southern mainland Iran were under Quwasim rule -northern emirates ruling family- not the other way around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.226.9 (talk) 09:07, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Changes to the article

I have really updated and improved this article, as it looked very bad before and not comparable to the other coutry articles. --MoHasanie (talk) 10:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson and government of the UAE????

The United Arab Emirates is a nation purely socialist whose government was established under the leadership of two gods (Michael Jackson and Tlaloc) following the union of the seven samurais. On 2 December 1971, the six-pack states became a federation like a Covenant (in Halo).[4]

Guys, what does "under the leadership of two gods (Michael Jackson and Tlaloc) mean??? What kind of impact did they have on the formation of the UAE's government? And, two gods??? What's this?

kpal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.154.132.3 (talk • contribs) 06:23, 1 July 2009

I took it out., some 16 year old must have come by and thought it would be funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.205.227.198 (talk) 05:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Content

The section on food has this content included:

Etiquette is an important aspect of UAE Culture and Tradition. The visitors here are expected to show manners and etiquette. Recently many expatriates have not been respecting the laws, and have been arrested, for not wearing enough clothing at beaches, some even being completely nude.[141]

Before the discovery of oil, pearling formed a crucial part of UAE's economy. Pearl fishery, known as ghaus, suffered decline after the advent of Japanese pearl farming. However, the UAE pearl industry laid the foundation of its rich maritime history. Dhows, large wooden ships made from teak wood imported from India, became an indistinct part of the countries maritime fleet and dhow building is still practiced in this Persian Gulf state and perform an important role of trade between countries like Iran, India, and Eastern Africa.[142]

It seems as this should be in another section. Fhaas (talk) 03:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

National juice?

Surely it's unreasonable to describe camel's milk as the national "juice" of the UAE. Wouldn't it be more accurate to describe it as a "beverage" or "drink"? 65.213.77.129 (talk) 14:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I've changed it to drink, as juice was not accurate enough. Thank You for pointing that out. --MoHasanie  Talk  22:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Describing Camel's milk as the National "Drink" of the UAE is inconsistent with how one of ordinary linguistic skills would typically understand the term "Drink". I've changed it to "Dairy". Coffee might be more appropriate as a national drink symbol, (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_coffee). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikerus (talk • contribs) 16:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Map is redicilus

What is the point of showing Asia, Africa, Europe and Oceania for a country this small? A good "zoom in" to the point where only the Middle East is shown would be appropriate. 83.108.202.186 (talk) 18:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Changes to the article

Please stop adding so many subheadings to the article. There is no need to put them. Besides there are no refences provided, AND each section only contains one or two sentences. Also, please dicuss when you're making any significant changes to the article. --MoHasanie  Talk  11:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

NATIONAL SPORT

Hello,

What is actually the national sport of UAE? One can find it as "camel racing" under the "national symbols" section and it is "football" in the "sports" section! Could anyone find out which is the real national sport of UAE?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azeezaman (talk • contribs) 19:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Government section

The government section is terribly confusing. Take the first sentence, "The politics of the United Arab Emirates take place in a framework of a federal presidential elected monarchy, a federation of seven absolute monarchies, the emirates of Abu Dhabi, Ajman, Fujairah, Sharjah, Dubai, Ras al-Khaimah and Umm al-Qaiwain." Grammatically, that is a mess; I'm not even sure what it is supposed to mean. Perhaps, "The politics of the United Arab Emirates take place in a framework of a federal, presidential, elective monarchy. The UAE is composed of seven absolute monarchies: the emirates of Abu Dhabi, Ajman, Fujairah, Sharjah, Dubai, Ras al-Khaimah and Umm al-Qaiwain." It gets worse from there. It repeatedly uses the phrase "federal system". The use of "federal" to describe the national government is always a little confusing, but the term "federal system" already means "the system of government in a federation".

Ideally, this section would be organized to start with the sentence above, move on to an explanation of what is in the jurisdiction of the UAE and what is in the jurisdiction of the emirates. Then would come, in no particular order, sections on the executive, legislature, and judiciary. If the head of state is not part of any of those branches, that person should get a section before the three branches. -Rrius (talk) 20:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I've done some work by working with Politics of the United Arab Emirates, but someone might want to check the section for accuracy. -Rrius (talk) 21:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I think your changes are quite accurate. Good work! I've always thought the Government and Politics section to be quite confusing. --195.229.235.45 (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Vandlism

Please stop vandlising this article. Some IP address keeps adding a climate aveage to this article. But how can a country have an average weather climate. It varies with the region. For example, in Fujairah it rains in June, but no where else in the country. --MoHasanie  Talk  10:58, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Um, hate to break it to you but that is exactly what an average is. A collection of measures of multiple points which are then used to find average. So if it rains in Fujairah, but no where else, this abnormality would slightly raise the average, which would then be balanced out by the climate in other regions. Make sense? Terkaal -- <Warning! Self-Confessed Newbie!> (talk) 07:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Combine Emirates of the United Arab Emirates article into this one

I suggest incorporating the Emirates of UAE into this article, for obvious reasons. Listing of political divisions of a country properly belongs to the article about the country, as any normal traditional encyclopaedia would do. --Mistakefinder (talk) 20:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}} The coordinates need the following fixes:

• The region for United Arab Emirates is AE. It is showing blank. How to fix it?

Aelfakih (talk) 15:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Template Infobox Country does not have a parameter that allows input of the ISO 3166-1 region code. I borrowed parameters "coordinates_type" and "coordinates_display" from a technique used successfully with Infobox Settlement; however, these parameter values apparently are not processed in Infobox Country. BrainMarble (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Census

It seems unlikely that a census has already been conducted in 2010. Is there a source for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.46.223 (talk) 22:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Motto

الله , الوطن , الرئيس "God, Nation, President"

any sources for this one ??? I am a UAE national , and I have never heard this one before !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.115.77.156 (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Not sure. There are various unofficial websites that have similar quotes, but without an authoritative source, I suggest we add a [{Citation needed}] tag for clarity. Added information should not be considered authoritative without citation. It can remain, with the caveat of publicly recognizing its need for sources. Ikerus (talk) 15:36, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Alcohol license

I don't want to edit the page as I don't normally edit Wikipedia, but I just wanted to mention that in addition to only Hotels only (almost) being allowed to serve alcohol, and only a few stores selling it, you need a license to buy alcohol (i.e. if you want to buy for taking it home). So if you are a foreigner you can only get alcohol at a bar or restaurant which serves it as you are not allowed to buy it in stores (although there are a some illegal ways of getting it). An alcohol license is personal, but you are also allowed to buy alcohol using the license of your spouse.

Bad Grammar

Can someone who knows what this is *supposed* to say please complete the final clause?

"As Sharia prohibits sodomy, homosexual relationships are not commonly disclosed and homosexual behavior in public."

Obviously the part after the "and" does not present a complete thought, as there is no verb in the clause. In fact, I'll go ahead and edit to remove the clause until someone can come around to fix it. zadignose (talk) 08:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Dubai Image caption

The caption of the picture of Dubai on the UAE page indicates that it's from the mid-20th century, but clicking through to the image indicates "I took this photograph at the Dubai Museum, in May 2005." One of these must be wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.182.88.85 (talk) 21:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

sex ratio

So the UAE nearly tops the world for its sex ratio, roughly twice as many men as women. Where are the women going? The birth rates are the same as elsewhere, so apparently female death rates (after age 15) skyrocket. This deserves at least a sentence of explanation in the article. What are the causes? Is it something like honour killings? Is it related to sex and marriage practices (since the numbers show that pre-pubescent girls are out-surviving boys in the UAE, as one naturally expects anywhere)? Also, the data on the demographics page seems inconsistent: despite the disappearing females, it claims men to have a slightly shorter life expectancy (as they do naturally). Are all these women travelling elsewhere, or are their deaths caused by a factor that some agency seeks to omit from its statistics? Cesiumfrog (talk) 22:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure it's not a case of disappearing females, but of appearing males: a very large part of the population consists of immigrant male workers. Barnabypage (talk) 10:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

In that case can we add half a sentence to the article explaining this, and also saying where the women have been left? I take it you're suggesting the main migration current flows from the former USSR to the Persian Gulf? Cesiumfrog (talk) 21:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know. I'm out of touch with the UAE. When I knew it well the obvious inward migration flows were from the Indian subcontinent, Yemen, the Philippines, Egypt, etc. rather than the former USSR. But there may well be a lot more ex-Soviets now. Maybe someone will come along with some reliable figures. Barnabypage (talk) 10:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The UAE does not reveal the nationalities of its 3.2m immigrants. There are some older published estimates in my report to the UN in 2005: http://www.mmo.gr/pdf/news/Migration_in_the_Middle_East_and_Mediterranean.pdf . There is a 2009 estimate by the ILO which puts the migrant labour population at 87% Asian, 8.7% Arab and 1.5% European (probably including former USSR). 85.72.205.36 (talk) 10:16, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Human Rights section ?!

It doesn't make sense to put a human rights section in the main country page, you can add the article in the see also section of the page. but country pages doesn't usually include this type of information. I checked in many other countries and could not find any other mention of human rights related issues in the main page, for example there is no mention for the human right violations in Guantanamo and AbuGhraib in the USA's main page, and also no mention for human right violations and restrictions in china's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbiased 1987 (talk • contribs) 07:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Complaining that the content does not exist on other pages, is not a valid reason to not include valid content here. The UAE has long been a point of concern with Human Rights, as much as many may try to hide that fact. If you do feel that the failure to include said violations of other nations on their pages, feel free to do the research and go add them to said pages then. Terkaal -- <Warning! Self-Confessed Newbie!> (talk) 07:48, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't have the time and effort to do the research on almost every single country in the world. going back to the Human rights watch website and checking the number of hits you can find searching the UAE, and comparing that number to the hits you get when searching countries like Russia, USA and Israel for example, I find it odd that someone have chosen to add a whole section about human rights in the country's main page, and that person's neutrality is in question. categorizing the UAE as a "point of concern with Human Rights" should be based on numbers and facts which I fail to observe comparing to other countries. Anyways Wikipedia should accommodate information added by everyone as long as its true, and most of the material in the Human rights section is verified and referenced, but who decides what should go in the country's main page and based on what? shouldn't most country pages contain similar formats and information ? therefore I still believe that the UAE's main page should not have an article about Human rights (like most countries in world that might have a worst record in human rights) and it should be added in the see also section. --Unbiased 1987 (talk) 15:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

The population of the UAE

This doubled when I wasn't looking? Come on guys, all estimates put it at just over 4m for 2010, and it was exactly 825,000 natives in the 2005 census, or 4.1 m including immigrants. The data are out there, so this is just sloppy work. 85.72.205.36 (talk) 09:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

WoW? Is this for real? UAE has more than 8 million residents and the native Emirati only made up of 9.5% while the Indians made up of 50% of the total population? Jesus, wonder when will UAE formally declare itself a state of India. 203.176.109.10 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:30, 7 May 2011 (UTC).

Just like how Australia is now mainly Caucausian... or Singapore is predominantly ethnically Chinese.. just that the UAE won't hand out citizenship that generously... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.227.18 (talk) 18:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Abu Dhabi core city

Surely Abu Dhabi city is the core city of Abu Dhabi in the demographics section not Al Ain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaqfalcon (talk • contribs) 11:31, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

No Freedom of Panorama in the United Arab Emirates?

According to this discussion there is no Freedom of Panorama in the United Arab Emirates. Does that mean most, if not all, of these photos being on used on Wikipedia are illegal by UAE law?

• Freedom_of_panorama#United_Arab_Emirates
• Media related to United Arab Emirates on Commons

Thanks, --IncidentFlux ^{[ TalkBack | Contributions ]} 13:00, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

So Wrong

Some smarty editor thought that India and the UAE are the same country and put India related topics towards the end of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.213.110.119 (talk) 12:33, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

citing itself?

hi,

"Torture Controversy: Issa bin Zayed Al Nayhan, the brother of the present ruler of Abu Dhabi, was recently accused of torturing a business partner after a videotape clearly showed him participating in a 3-hour-long torture session in the desert. Abu Dhabi courts cleared him and instead convicted his accusers of drug charges.[63]"

this [63] is a citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issa_bin_Zayed_Al_Nahyan , lol --187.40.181.95 (talk) 04:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Dirty Towel Head?

Under ethnic group someone put 16.5% "dirty towel heads." Just a little bit racist. I tried to fix it but I couldn't find it in the text edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.229.103 (talk) 22:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

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Local Government-Municipalities?

Are each of the emirates, themselves, divided into local governments? Are settlements/urban areas like Dubai and Abu Dhabi run at the local level, or are they governed directly by the emirate? This needs to be made clear when we're talking about the "cities" in the emirates. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:23, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Politics_of_the_United_Arab_Emirates#Local_politics explains some of this but I agree, a brief reference to it here might be worthwhile. Barnabypage (talk) 11:54, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing to that, but yes, it is still not made clear. Particularly, I'm interested in whether the urbanized area of Dubai is administered/governed at the emirate level, or if there is a local government that covers the urbanized area? --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:03, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Dubai Municipality may be your answer. Barnabypage (talk) 11:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I've already asked the same question on that page in its "discusson" section, too. The page is embarrassingly sparse, giving not land area or population for the so-called municipality. It sounds like the municipality might not be an actual local government, rather a kind of locally-minded grouping of local services. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

It is a government body, I've been in its offices. :) (A while ago.) Barnabypage (talk) 16:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, then, how many square kilometers/miles does municipality cover, then? Every other city page on wiki lists as the most basic measurements of a city the population and land area. Why is it so hard to find the municipal boundaries of Dubai Municipality/City? I'm a bit tired of beating around the bush. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Lead section

Why some contents of the lead section are holded?? and I dont find any discussion on this page also. --Omer123hussain (talk) 06:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Assuming you mean "bolded", it's standard Wikipedia practice - see WP:BOLDTITLE. Barnabypage (talk) 14:29, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Link to Inappropriate Picture

Somehow the entire article has been turned into a link to a somewhat questionable picture. Someone with more knowledge than me should fix this Googlypoo (talk) 03:30, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

MAP OMISSION

The colored map is fine except for one omission: This is the tripartate town of Dibba on the Gulf of Oman, and on the border with Oman's Mussandam Peninsula. Oman, and the UAE Emirates of Sharjah and Fujaira, each own part of it. Also another minor but important omission is the Neutral Zone between Emirates Dubai and Abu Dhabi, established because of their mutual interests in shared oil and natural-gas fields.

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Kaelin von Gross — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.105.190 (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

ELECTIVE MONARCHY

I take exception to the analysis that the UAE is neither a monarchy nor a republic. It is indeed an Elective Federal Monarchy. The title of president may be considered as "presiding monarch" or "president of the council of rulers". Traditionally (if not constitutionally), the hereditary Emir of Abu Dhabi is always "elected" president by the other 6 Emirs on the ruling council. The heriditary Emir of Dubai is always elected Vice President. There is no question that the UAE is a unique type of monarchy; it is in fact, (or de-facto), an elective monarchy comprising the federation of 7 absolute monarchies (Emirates). The elective monarchies in Malaysia and Samoa are somewhat similar.

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Kaelin von Gross — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.105.190 (talk) 22:39, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Everybody! Slow down!

Woah woah woah, come on everybody let's slow down a bit here.

This article was once rated "Good" rank.

To be totally honest, it now reads like I'm stuck inside a spiraling mess of delusions of grandeur and immunity to neutral coverage.

I may be a bit of a point out and not edit, editor, but this is just flat out insane.

So can we stop the "Your government has done so much for you" arguments. Can we stop the "I think the UAE is evil!" opinion thrusting. Can we stop the "I think the UAE is the best thing since sliced bread!" chanting. Can we stop the "Hello I want help with deciding if this is a good company" offtopic asks. Can we stop the "Oh Dubai is a lovely holiday destination, let me start talking about my wonderful time there" travel reports. Can the emerati population of editors here try seperate themselves from their commendable, but misplaced in this situation, national pride and stop slanting this article away from an informative neutral article towards it's current form, nothing more than a propaganda filled "Government Authorised Truth". Let's be totally honest here, this is typical over-patriotic behaviour that time and time again quickly destroys all credibility that any user-controlled information on the UAE has.

It might be good intentioned, or simply sticking up for a nation you're proud to call home, but this is not the place. If you want to go do that, write into a tabloid, on your opinions, talk to friends, organise a pro-UAE or anti-UAE party if you so please (Oh and to any over-zealous CID or Ministry official reading that, calm down, I'm not enciting rebellion against the UAE here, though that does seem to be the usual excuse that gets spouted out.)

Last I checked? The UAE propaganda and social brainwashing machine has no jurisdiction here, nor does the hate fuelled biased criticisms of any arab nation by the western world that is seen all too often.

So what do you say editors? Let's drop our engrained pride issues and get this article back to it's old "Good" Status?

In the mean time, I'm making a start, this is just way too unencyclopedic to ignore. It makes me ashamed to call myself a resident of the UAE even, seeing us essentially bend over and being doctorined into this patriotic blindness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terkaal (talk • contribs) 06:51, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

16.6% Emirati?

In the ethnic groups section, it should be 16.6% Arab. Emiratis are not an ethnicity. They are just Arabs who live in the UAE. And keep in mind that the UAE is an artificial Gulf country, not an organic nation-state. I suggest replacing Emirati with Arab in the ethnic group section.--RM (Be my friend) 07:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Eh....no. The United Arab Emirates, though young, are recognised as a nation-state by the international community and therefore are considered to have a legitamate claim to it's identity as a nation-state as much as say for example the United States.

Secondly, When the nation was founded, natives in the form of bedowins largely settled into various points in the emirates on a more pernament basis and thus became the first Emiratis, though arguably just Arabs settling from other locations. However, since then, one if not two generations have been born from these settlers and can be considered full Emiratis.

As for the small percentage, there is a large amount of the emirati population which goes for education or work outside of the UAE and thus attributes to the percentage. Terkaal -- <Warning! Self-Confessed Newbie!> (talk) 07:31, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Post-oil economy

Oil production in the UAE has fallen by more than 30% since 1998. Oil and gas exports are now only 37% of the budget. Some UAE countries as Dubai will run out of oil by 2025.As a result, the UAE is seeking to pursue a post-oil economy meaning that the economy will be diversified into several non-oil related activities. These include tourism, real estate and commercial projects.

add in article 91.182.177.101 (talk) 10:05, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:United Arab Emirates/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TheSpecialUser (talk · contribs) 02:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Will do it shortly! TheSpecialUser ^TSU 02:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Quick-Fail: Here are just few points that make this article appear nowhere near a GA.

• Lead- pretty bad. Not only poorly written, I'm not getting a flow and things just seem to come up one after another. It needs a re-write.
• Sources- Large number of them won't considered as WP:RS by me.
• Ref need- Many facts need ref.
• Prose- It is not good enough and needs copyediting.
• Neutrality- There exists few peacock terms and some lines doesn't make me comfortable as they need to be written from a NPOV.
• Odd note with no ref
• See also section has too many extra things
• The article is full with maintenance tags and many are needed.

TheSpecialUser ^TSU 15:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I would like to ask you all to tell me what this article needs and does not need so I can add it to this article thank you for your feedback!!!!! :):):):

We can take out some useless info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Curlysherly123 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Under the 'Political divisions' section the first 2 sentences are out of date and inconsistent with the more up to date data at the bottom of the section. 67.185.170.217 (talk) 06:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Old Sections

Languages

I changed the languages section to reflect the major languages spoken by the UAE's expatriate population and to then refer to the wide range of other languages rather than have people enumerating each of the minority languages spoken, after someone added 'Albanian'. Taken to its logical conclusion, the list would be huge as there are over 160 nationalities represented in the UAE's expatriate population. Hope this is an elegant solution. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:15, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Yup go for it. Same as with other countries in the world, there are dozens of languages spoken here and it is okay to include the most common ones only.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2015

Please change: temperatures reaching 40–50 degrees Celsius in the cities

to: temperatures reaching 40–50 degrees Celsius (104-122 degrees Fahrenheit) in the cities

for clarity to US readers. 54.240.196.185 (talk) 19:15, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Note: I support this, but don't have time to do it right now. Should probably make use of {{Convert}}. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 19:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Done. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 19:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2015

2.50.149.196 (talk) 05:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 07:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Oil reserves ranking

The article states that the "UAE's oil reserves are the fourth-largest in the world", but both the citation link and the Wikipedia article of List of countries by proven oil reserves rank UAE as the 7th. It's an easy fix I would do myself, but I don't seem to have editing priviledges. Thanks.

Done. Cheers. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2015

Grammatical correction: "The UAE's economy is the most diversified in the Gulf Cooperation Council, with its most populous city of Dubai emerging into an* center for international trade and transport.[10][11]" *should be 'a'. No big deal, but I thought I'd throw this out there. Wpursell (talk) 19:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Done Cannolis (talk) 21:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Joournalism2k16 (talk) *although an is correct.

Layout needs attention

Could someone please check the sections on religion and education. Something is wrong with the layout and it is beyone me to fix it. kritikos99 (talk) 16:35, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

 Done -- [?] Looks good to me now; how about to you? -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:11, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

History

Under the section 'Saudi Rule (1744-1891) there is a reference to Sheikh Zayed bin Khalifa, "Sheikh Zayed was a strong leader and all tribes along his Emirates treated him with respect." which appears to confuse him with Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan, his grandson. In the time of ZBK Abu Dhabi had no influence over the Northern emirates which were dominated by the Qawasim. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:31, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

This whole section is way too large a part of the article for what was a temporary occupation of a small southern oasis town (Buraimi) - in fact, the heading 'Saudi Rule' is highly questionable as the emirates of the coast were never formally ruled by Saudi Arabia. Most of the text under the heading does not relate to any period of Saudi Rule.

The emirates currently forming the UAE were at one time - up until 1891 - part of the second Saudi State? This is an extraordinary claim made on the basis of no citation and which is clearly disproved by a large bulk of well known and documented history. The rulers of what became known as the 'Trucial Coast' - Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah and Ras Al Khaimah, Ajman, Umm Al Qawain and Fujeirah were regarded as sovereign by the British, the dominant power in the region at the time, and were signatories to treaties (ie: recognised as being in a position of authority to make treaties rather than as being Saudi vassals) with the British in 1820, 1843, 1853 and in 1892. In fact, Saudi invaders were driven from Buraimi in 1870 by the then ruler of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Zayed bin Khalifa Al Nahyan. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:10, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

I HAVE EDITED the history section to remove the spurious and wholly uncited sections referring to Saudi rule over the UAE and have replaced these with a cited and (I hope!) well structured history that accurately reflects the various influences over the formation of the UAE, from Christianity and Islam through the Portugese to the British. There's more to do, but this is at least an accurate reflection of documented history. Cheers. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:53, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

Several proposed changes:

1. In the lead, second paragraph, please change "and chooses one of its members to be the president of the federation of the seven emirates" to "one of whom is selected as the president of the federation".
2. In the same paragraph, please change "which is also the state's center of commercial and cultural activities" to "which is one of the two centers of commercial and cultural activities, together with Dubai".
3. In the independence section (1.5), second paragraph, please change "then call the rulers of the other five emirates" to "then call the rulers of the other seven emirates" because their intention was to invite the rulers of Bahrain and Qatar too.
4. In the independece section, second paragraph, please change "The emirates of Bahrain and Qatar were also invited to join the Union, but they declined the invitation." to "Bahrain and Qatar declined their invitations to join the union" to simplify the sentence.
5. In the independence section, third paragraph, please change "It was a founding member of the Gulf Cooperation Council in May 1981 and its first summit was held in Abu Dhabi." to "It was a founding member of the Gulf Cooperation Council in May 1981, with Abu Dhabi hosting the first summit." in order to clarify the sentence.
6. In the law section (3.1), second paragraph, please change "However, Dubai and Ras al-Khaimah do not belong to the national judiciary." with "However, Dubai and Ras Al Khaimah are not part of the federal judicial system." based on a virtually duplicate but slightly clearer sentence from the third paragraph of the law section.
7. In the law section, third paragraph, please remove the duplicate sentence "Dubai and Ras Al Khaimah are not part of the federal judicial system."
8. In the sports section (6.2), please remove "The great rivalries keep the UAE energized as people fill the streets when their favorite team wins" because this appears to be commentary.

Thanks in advance. 92.40.248.224 (talk) 02:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Done all, except for #3, which I don't understand at a glance. Materialscientist (talk) 05:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Population

The population in the infobox is outdated/incorrect. The CIA World Factbook source listed does not specify July 2013 as the date for the population estimate and rather has an NA in place of the estimation date. Google currently relies on the World Bank for its population estimate, so I think it would make sense to replace the current estimate with that one. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 10:31, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done -- Looks good (World Bank is ref.) What does "(93rd)" mean? (in the box after the 9.2million population number.) -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:26, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

"(93rd)" is an active link, so I answered my own question (and find UAE has moved up to (91st). -- FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:32, 5 July 2014 (UTC) -- PS: Does it need to be explained to the reader?

The proportion given for South Asians is wrong. According to the linked source, it should be 3.5m/6m = 58% rather than 12% — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1120:46C9:8402:89A2:A70:C718 (talk) 16:41, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Tourism in the United Arab Emirates

Hi! It would be great if you could create this article: Tourism in the United Arab Emirates!

Perhaps you can draw some inspiration from Tourism in Brazil and Tourism in Germany. :) Use proper sources! Thanks & all the best, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Map Update

The map does not include South Sudan, it needs to be updated. --WhyHellWhy (talk) 04:58, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Not a Monarchy, Not a Republic, but a Federation

I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject, so forgive me. However, I see that a recent edit changed the government type in the info box from "republic," to "monarchy." As far as I understand, U.A.E. is neither. If it's a monarchy, then who is the monarch...? i.e., who is the king of U.A.E.? There isn't one. The U.A.E. is a "union" or "federation" of states, each of which may be a monarchy. The problem with infoboxes and classification is that they lead to shorthands and poor assumptions, such as that U.A.E. should be regarded as a state rather than a union of states.zadignose (talk) 04:22, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

It can be considered a monarchy because article 4 of the constitution stipulates that the Emir of Abu Dhabi is the President of UAE, who is also the president of the Federal Supreme Council, the body of the seven emirs. The head of state comes from the monarchs of the emirates. If the federal government was a republic, the head of state of the UAE as a whole would be elected by a non-royal citizenry independent of the emirs.

And calling UAE a state is accurate since a federation is supposed to be a union (of "states") that itself functions as a country through a federal government. Abstractematics (talk) 07:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, I accept the definitions above as relating to U.A.E., as I'm not sufficiently knowledgeable on the topic. However, in a more general case, it's worth mentioning here in talk that neither "federation" nor "union" necessarily implies the creation of a "state." E.g., the European Union is certainly not a state, and neither the Union of African States nor the Federation of Arab Republics was a state historically. zadignose (talk) 06:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Removals

Could the person who keeps logging in and deleting sections relevant to the early tribal history and Islamisation of the UAE please stop just deleting stuff and perhaps have a talk about it first? Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can just remove it.

The UAE was tribal and, in fact, still is.

The arrival of Islam in North Eastern Arabia (Previously Oman, Trucial Oman, The Trucial Coast and now the UAE) is part of the UAE's history, the reason it is an Islamic nation today.

Thanks. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:03, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Dubai drowning in debt

An IP user swung by a while ago and added:

Dubai suffered from a significant economic crisis in 2007-2010 and was bailed out by Abu Dhabi's oil wealth. Dubai's current prosperity has been attributed to Abu Dhabi's petrodollars.[15] Dubai is currently in extreme debt.[16]

to the header of this article. While there's no doubt that Abu Dhabi did help Dubai out during the GFC, I'm not sure it a) amounted to a bailout b) it needs to go in the summary section of the UAE article or c) that Dubai suffered any less than the rest of the Emirates - or indeed world - from the GFC. Does the UK article lead with the details of bank bailouts by the government during the GFC? Then why apply a different standard here? Also Dubai's prosperity has been attributed sure, but by one voice in a marginal citation that is in any case opinion and not borne by fact. Dubai's prosperity is clearly due to a huge number of factors, and very few of these are linked to Abu Dhabi's petrodollars. And Dubai's debt is by no means extreme - just because a blogger has written that does not make a level of indebtedness that is, for instance, far less than that of the US extreme. I'd call $17,963,753,617,957.26 extreme.

Any objections to removing these statements? Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:33, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

If these statements are going to be removed, it will make it sound like as if everything is rosy in Dubai, which is exactly what the Dubai Government wants. The objective of Wikipedia is, however, to prevent biased reporting, and hence those statements should not be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.26.123.208 (talk) 09:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

What the Dubai government does or doesn't want doesn't matter. The statements are sweeping and too strong, placed with undue prominence in the header of an article about the UAE (not Dubai) and backed by shaky citations. Which is surely not the objective of Wikipedia. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:00, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Fine, then remove the statements from the header of the article and put it somewhere in between. Also, summarise the bunch of statements in a few words instead. We dont want it to be completely deleted nor do we want to beat around the bush.

British era/discovery of oil

I don't think this reads well as one subsection, and it is not chronological as such. Therefore, I have restored "Discovery of oil" as a separate subsection. Plus the fact that, although the company behind the oil discoveries (IPC) was British led, it was a multinational consortium and doesn't fit well into the "British era" section, Bearing in mind that oil is the foundation of most of the UAE's wealth, it surely deserves a separate subsection.3ig3asy (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

There are too many sub-sections in the history section. Look at good articles like Australia (history section), good articles don't normally have numerous sub-sections in the history section. The United Arab Emirates (Trucial States) was a British protectorate, so there was a "British era" in the UAE's history. The UAE was still a British protectorate when oil was discovered. The UAE gained independence in 1971, oil was discovered before 1971 when the UAE was still a British protectorate. It's not necessary to have numerous sub-sections in the history section. The UAE has a relatively brief history, look at good articles, countries with a long history (like Azerbaijan, Turkey, Switzerland, Malaysia, Philippines) don't have so many sub-sections in their history section. 103.251.65.101 (talk) 20:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps this is not the right place to debate the exact status of the Trucial States, since their rulers had autonomy over their internal affairs, and "protectorate" had a specific meaning to the British, ie: the Aden Protectorate, and the Trucial states did not fall into this category. But I never disputed that there was a British era in the UAE's history, so let's leave it at that. I accept your reasoning about the number of subsections, and so agree with the one title, but the chronology is still awry. Thanks for your advice.3ig3asy (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Is it true that Jebel Jais has only experienced snow twice since records began?

The article currently says, “The Jebel Jais mountain cluster in Ras al-Khaimah has experienced snow only twice since records began,” citing a Gulf News article that says no such thing. This was added by the IP User talk:192.43.227.18, which has a history of adding claims of dubious accuracy to many articles. Is it actually true? I don’t want to delete it unless it’s actually false. Kragen Javier Sitaker (talk) 19:03, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

It's snowed on Jebel Jais before. The peak has been 'completely covered' by snow only twice according to media reports although it has long been so remote that nobody would have seen snow on it: there's now a road to the peak. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Flag Wikilink

I'm not sure how to use the infobox country template to get it to link the text under the flag (that reads "Flag") to the page about the flag: Flag of the United Arab Emirates. Anybody able to figure that one out? Also, in the media viewer, at least on my end, if you click on the flag it appears with the caption "Flag of the United kingdom" which seems odd to me. However, this did not happen when I disabled media viewer, or when I viewed the same image in the media viewer coming from any other page. Helixer (hábleme) 05:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Original research

I deleted the part talking about rape. Quotes such as Rape victims are sometimes criminalized in the UAE are original research, because they are not rape victims, but people that were allegedly raped, and their version was considered a lie from authorities. So, this is clearly POV and not admissible. I deleted examples concerning particular cases such as those of Marte Dalelv, because they are not relevant on a very general page such this one. --Lenore (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The Western media identifies those women as rape victims. There is no evidence that they are lying about the rape. Marte Dalelv's case received international attention and outcry from many governments around the world.

I removed the part about rape victims sometimes criminalized. Several women reported being raped and were jailed. Human Rights Watch and other organizations have criticized the UAE government for jailing women who report rape. This article doesn't cherry-pick information.---Humanrightsuae 22:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

The opinion of western media is irrilevant. The only thing to consider is the opinion of local judiciary. Please stop to insert this. Thank you. Lenore (talk) 13:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

@Lenore and Humanrightsuae:It looks like the information already exists on both Human rights in the United Arab Emirates and Sharia in the United Arab Emirates. In fact, I would say that the sections "Sharia law" and "Human rights" could probably be trimmed to the main points of the respective linked articles. Deunanknute (talk) 13:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Also, the "Sharia law" section of Human rights in the United Arab Emirates should be similarly shortened with a link to Sharia in the United Arab Emirates. Deunanknute (talk) 13:32, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

@Humanrightsuae:By shortened, I mean that any information on single occurrences should be removed from the main article, and moved to the appropriate sub-article. The main article should have an overview of the information. Deunanknute (talk) 13:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Humanrightsuae and Deunanknute, like I've stated elsewhere, Lenore misunderstands the WP:Original research and WP:POV policies. Flyer22 (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

human rights mention in lede

In the intro I propose editng the line "The UAE has been criticized **in the West** for its human rights record, including the role of Sharia law in its legal system". There is a lot of back and forth in the archives on the due weight to accord to the human rights record. My guess is to many users of english wikipedia, UAE is noteworthy primarily because of its human rights record, so maybe its mention merits this kind of prominence. On the other hand, that is still the pov of a particular demographic. In situations like this, where one group characterizes another group in a controversial way (eg Sharia law==human rights violation), why not be explicit about exactly WHO is saying WHAT. Instead of a bare passive like "UAE has been criticized". The links provided are to the US dept of state, with which UAE has a rather complicated relationship, and human rights watch, a western advocacy org. So unless there are noteworthy non-western sources, why not be clear about it.Snarfblaat (talk) 19:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

inappropriate slur

The following remark occurs at the end of the "Economy" section of the article titled "United Arab Emirates": "...even though they show scant regard for work and learning on the job." Here "they" refers to Emiratis. This is a sweeping generalization that is insulting and unsupported. The reference [224] that is given does not support this. Rather, that reference is a commentary on student attitudes in the UAE that says something that one often hears about U.S. students as well. In any case, reference [224] says nothing about attitudes toward work or learning on the job. If someone who's experienced in editing (which I am not) agrees with me, perhaps you should delete that comment. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:8900:EF1A:60E0:B6B5:7CD0:659A (talk) 21:58, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note! I'll take a look at that for you.Jlevi (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done I believe I've fixed the issue, and I hope you find it satisfactory. If not, complain again here. Alternatively, feel free to make edits in the futures. Be bold! Jlevi (talk) 16:30, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hey folks. I just pushed several old, completed talk sections under one heading to clean up the (to me) cluttered page. If this is unwanted, feel free to discuss, edit, or revert. Jlevi (talk) 17:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

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please change doing business ranking- Currently it shows 2011 Ranking, please make it to 31st ranking as per 2016 Index Maitreyeepurohit (talk) 06:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 12:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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United Arab Emirates Contents 1 History 1.1 Antiquity 1.2 Islam 1.3 Ottoman and Portuguese era 1.4 British era, discovery of oil 1.5 Independence (1971) 1.6 After independence 2 Geography 2.1 Flora and fauna 2.2 Climate 3 Politics 3.1 Foreign relations 3.2 Military 3.3 Political divisions 4 Law 4.1 Human rights 4.2 Dress code 5 Media 6 Economy 7 Transport 7.1 Expo 2020 8 Demographics 8.1 Religion 8.2 Largest cities 8.3 Languages 9 Culture 9.1 Food 10 Sports 11 Education 12 Health 13 See also 14 Notes 15 References 16 External links

the information or the article is very old it must be updated cues it has fault information about the UAE that will give a bad influence about the UAE

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Fujairah - 1942 or 1952

The infobox on this page shows 1942 as the year of "Establishment from the United Kingdom" for Fujairah. On the Fujairah page, under the history heading, the statement reads: "In 1952, Fujairah entered into treaty relations with Britain". This is also the year listed in the Trucial States wiki article. Should the infobox on this page be corrected? On the Trucial States and Fujairah page the link to the Fujairah establishment is supported by Bey, Frauke (1996). From Trucial States to United Arab Emirates. UK: Longman. pp. 296–7.ISBN 0582277280. Rwos (talk) 13:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Well spotted - and yes, you're right. I changed this, also the date of Dubai and Sharjah's recognition, which came with the 1820 treaty. It's arguable the other emirates should also be dated 1820... Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Romanization of Arabic

Should "dawlat" be in the Romanization? It does not seem to be included in the Arabic script. Nicole Sharp (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

homosexuality put in the same context as sodomy

Is it really necessary to put homsexuality into the same paragraph with sodomy? That puts it into the same context and follows the prejudice that homosexuals had to fight all around the world to not be seen as a sexual abnormity. I am very much convinced that wikipedia can do better here. Gerfried Fuchs (talk) 07:21, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

I think it's okay the way it is. It's not really prejudice just the way that homosexuality/sodomy is seen there. 09:16, 12 October 2016 (UTC) Update by Emir of Wikipedia (talk)

I assumed that it's because it is put into the same category there - but that shouldn't be something taken over uncommented. Adding something along the lines of that they are seen in the same category over there would be sufficient to make it clear that it's not the view of Wikipedia to put it together but of UAE.

And frankly spoken, did you leave your name out of the comment intentional? "Emir of Wikipedia" sounds a bit like you might share that view/mindset and rather want to spread spread. This really feels like an agenda issue in that respect.

Gerfried Fuchs (talk) 12:25, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

The leaving amount of my name is accidental. It happens when you type ~~~~~ instead of ~~~~. If you can think of an appropriate way to comment the UAE view compared to the Wikipedia view then be bold and edit it, but be prepared to explain why you've changed it if it is challenged. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:03, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, it seems the pictures used for police cars in the law section are not what the captions say. I have a hard time believing without a source that the 6 or so Bugattis / Ferraris are "at work" in this picture, or even that they are used for anything else than for show. Should we put more realistic pictures? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.16.108.185 (talk) 02:28, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

They're fine. The supercars are used for displays, school events etc but they also go on patrol and are frequently to be seen on the roads here. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:21, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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Socotra

Maybe add something about the UAE military in Yemeni Socotra? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustOneGuyWithALama (talk • contribs) 16:20, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Driving

In the UAE, people drive on the right side of the road, not left as stated in upper right table — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.244.212 (talk) 12:58, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018

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 Not done: Request is blank. Sam Sailor 13:20, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2019

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This request was blank; you need to indicate, in a change X to Y format, what changes you are requesting. 331dot (talk) 09:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2019

Passport section. UAE is ranked 21st, not 1st. 110.50.153.188 (talk) 18:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Removed the passport section. Unnecessary. Briefly mentioned in foreign relation section. Wikiemirati (talk) 22:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Protected Status

No chance to dispute the claim by one of the Emirs that there was no piracy on the Pirate coast. Bad fir business, I expect. But removal of the protected status purchased by the Emirates would allow debate. Still that was why the status was purchased; to avoid debate. 213.205.240.245 (talk) 17:42, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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Saudi Arabia is to the South and West of the UAE 92.99.116.158 (talk) 03:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

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Driving side = left?

I am sure the UAE (now) drives on the right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csmale (talk • contribs) 14:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Gratuitous image not representative of the police

The image of the car with the caption "Abu Dhabi Police patrol car on duty at Emirates Palace" serves no useful purpose. The police only ever had one of those cars, so it is not representative of the police fleet. (Only seven of those cars were ever made.) Moriori (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Dawlat in the name

I don't know where that word came from. It means state. No body usually say "دولة الإمارات المتحدة" Dawlat al-Imarat al-Mutahidah, it's like saying the state of the United Kingdom. It is trivia. It is not the official name. See the Arabic Wikipedia ar:United Arab Emirates. It looks like if it was added because the word Dawalat was with no vowels. I remove it.--SharabSalam (talk) 08:13, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

How did you conclude it is not the official name of the country? a quick google search will show several government websites include the word "دولة", links: [6] [7] [8] , in addition, the term "دولة الإمارات" will return more than 8 millions results, I think the edits should be reverted. UA3 (talk) 16:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

UA3, The emblem of the United Emirates doesnt say Dawlat. The link you provided doesnt say that the official name has Dawlat in it. The word Dawlat is written behind any state because it simply means "state". If you read the link it says at the title الإمارات العربية المتحدة and yes it says sometimes Dawlat but thats in the middle of paragraphs like "السياسة العامة لدولة الإمارات العربية المتحدة";"the general policy of the state of United Arab Emirates" but when it is alone it, it is written as الامارات العربية المتحدة" look for example next to the "الرئيسية" it says "الامارات العربية المتحدة"--SharabSalam (talk) 16:27, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Also this is not a matter of common names, it is a matter of official names. You can find more results for Hakomat al-Imarat (the Government of Emirate). Plus Google hits dont count. The link you provided already proves that it is without Dawlat.--SharabSalam (talk) 16:32, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up, I think you shouldn't start with "No body usually say" as it made it unclear to me, Regards. UA3 (talk) 07:08, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Ethnic groups source

Where is the ethnic_groups_ref in the infobox? I used CIA Factbook but I was reverted by Alexandermcnabb.--SharabSalam (talk) 09:34, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Is this encyclopedic?

The UAE offers businesses a strong enabling environment: stable political and macroeconomic conditions, a future-oriented Government, good general infrastructure and ICT infrastructure. Moreover, the country has made continuous and convincing improvements to its regulatory environment and is generally a top country for doing business. Is this encyclopedic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.237.221 (talk) 12:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC) edited by SharabSalam (talk) 09:53, 7 October 2019 (UTC) to shorten it