Talk:Une semaine de bonté

Trivia

I've removed the following. I couldn't see why it was titled "homages"; it looked more like plain "uses" (or perhaps even "rip-offs"), but anyway seemed profoundly trivial. -- Hoary (talk) 08:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

==Homages in modern culture==

• The progressive rock band The Mars Volta have used one of the images from Une Semaine de Bonté on their t-shirts and as a backdrop when they play live since 2005.

• The band Alkaline Trio used one of the images from "Une Semaine" on a poster.

• The pictures from Une Semaine de Bonté are used as covers for Boris Akunin's books from Erast Fandorin series published in Russia.

Now that theses "homages" have been removed, there doesn't seem to be anything else on the Talk page. How about this observation: the video of Franz Ferdinand's Take Me Out features a great deal of animated collages very much in the style of Une Semaine de Bonté, often achieving the same kind of vague sense of unease. Nuttyskin (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

References

816 or 828 copies

"ERNST (MAX): UNE SEMAINE DE BONTÉ OU LES SEPT ÉLÉMENTS CAPITAUX, 5 VOLS., LIMITED TO 816 COPIES, THIS NUMBER 464 OF 800 COPIES ON PAPIER NAVARRE, 4TO, PARIS, AUX ÉDITIONS JEANNE BUCHER, 1934, 182 FULL-PAGE ILLUSTRATIONS BY ERNST, ORIGINAL WRAPPERS, SLIPCASE"

1976 Dover edition preface says 828 copies, but (after cursory googling) 816 is perhaps a more likely number? -71.174.188.43 (talk) 21:14, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

collage technique

"With infinite care, he cut out the images that interested him and assembled them with such precision as to bring his collage technique to a level of incomparable perfection. Without seeing the original illustrations, it is difficult to work out where Max Ernst intervened."

"Up until last year, the original collages of Une semaine de bonté, which Max Ernst kept throughout his life, had only been exhibited once in their entirety (minus five plates, probably judged to be too blasphemous). This was in March 1936 at the Museo Nacional de Arte Moderno (National Museum of Modern Art) in Madrid, just before the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War."

"great drawings of big author, worth the have it, but I saw originals in Vienna and must say that I was bit disappointed when I saw the drawings in the book. I think that they are not to good scanned. Originals have very thin lines and in the book that lines are not so thin, so much detail because of that is lost. Second, on original drawings some parts are sticked, and you see that in different shades of paper. And in the book all is on white paper so you cant know which part is collage."

"Ernst created Une Semaine De Bonte to be reproduced so the individual elements of the work would not be visible. From the publisher's note in the Dover edition: "the printing process concealed the joins completely, and the results are incredibly effective." The original collages you viewed at exhibition are not Une Semaine De Bonte as Ernst intended. Une Semaine De Bonte is contained in the five booklets produced in an edition of 828 sets in 1934. It would only be fair to judge Dover's edition against those original booklets and not the original collages."

As reproduced in the Dover edition, these don't really seem like "collages" exactly, though they are clearly derivative and odd. It would be helpful if the article explained exactly how the artist produced them -- are they really entirely pasted cut-ups, or did he include some original drawings/lettering/etc?-71.174.188.43 (talk) 21:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

copyright

This 1934 derivative work would seem to have had potential copyright-infringement issues. Was that significant at the time of publication, or subsequently?-71.174.188.43 (talk) 22:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Unpublished collage 1934

• www.nationalgalleries.org/collection/artists-a-z/E/3237/artist_name/Max%20Ernst/record_id/18867

Untitled (Unpublished collage for 'Une Semaine de Bonté') 1934

1 of 2 unpublished originals? -71.174.188.43 (talk) 02:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)