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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that the first two English translations of Trilby, or the Fairy of Argyll (title character pictured) were made to piggyback on the success of a mostly unrelated Trilby novel? Source: Apologies, I can't briefly cite it in a single sentence, but this is basically the substance of the Translation section; the best single source is several pages of Trilbyana, starting from https://books.google.com/books?id=kPwNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA38#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ALT1: ... that the novella Trilby, or the Fairy of Argyll (title character pictured) was made into at least two ballets and an opera, each departing further from the plot? Source: Again, apologies, but this is basically the substance of the Adaptations section, where each is individually well cited therein.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
- Comment: Thanks are due to User:Ffranc; though not technically a co-author in that he didn't actually write anything in the Trilby article as such, he was the inspiration and gave invaluable advice.
Moved to mainspace by GRuban (talk). Self-nominated at 01:11, 23 March 2022 (UTC).
- The article is new enough, long enough, referenced, neutral and no copyvio obvious. There are a few books, journals and foreign language sources that are accepted AGF. The hooks are sourced and interesting. All images used in the article are free, and the one here is clear. QPQ done. One interesting tidbit about La Sylphide, mentioned in the adaptation section, that you might be interested in adding: it is the first ballet danced en pointe. Great job! Corachow (talk) 14:23, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Corachow: - thanks, it was fun! My English is far better than my French, so I read the bits about the English translation being inspired by a basically different book first, which I thought was just hilarious, then the rest came, and it was also nice, it's a more subtle story than it seems at first; the New York Times reviewer couldn't figure out why Jeanie died! However, are you sure about the "first en pointe" thing? Because my source, the San Francisco Ballet, https://www.sfballet.org/about-bournonvilles-la-sylphide/ says "Taglioni choreographed La Sylphide for ... his daughter Marie as the Sylph. Marie Taglioni wasn’t the first dancer to dance on pointe, but she was the first to use it as an expression of character..." Do you have a source that says it was? --GRuban (talk) 19:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I should've clarify. La Sylphide is the first full-length ballet en pointe, per Pointe Magazine. It is also as you said, the first time where being en pointe helps with the expression of the character, rather than just a show-off. I've never seen the Taglioni La Sylphide but saw the Bournonville one a few times and love it. Glad to see the source material finally gets an article. Corachow (talk) 20:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Done --GRuban (talk) 17:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I should've clarify. La Sylphide is the first full-length ballet en pointe, per Pointe Magazine. It is also as you said, the first time where being en pointe helps with the expression of the character, rather than just a show-off. I've never seen the Taglioni La Sylphide but saw the Bournonville one a few times and love it. Glad to see the source material finally gets an article. Corachow (talk) 20:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Corachow: - thanks, it was fun! My English is far better than my French, so I read the bits about the English translation being inspired by a basically different book first, which I thought was just hilarious, then the rest came, and it was also nice, it's a more subtle story than it seems at first; the New York Times reviewer couldn't figure out why Jeanie died! However, are you sure about the "first en pointe" thing? Because my source, the San Francisco Ballet, https://www.sfballet.org/about-bournonvilles-la-sylphide/ says "Taglioni choreographed La Sylphide for ... his daughter Marie as the Sylph. Marie Taglioni wasn’t the first dancer to dance on pointe, but she was the first to use it as an expression of character..." Do you have a source that says it was? --GRuban (talk) 19:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)