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Section sizes

Section size for Transgender history (65 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	4,112	4,112
Historiography	4,732	4,732
Africa	49	15,693
Ancient Egypt	1,426	1,426
North Africa	1,877	1,877
West Africa	1,297	1,297
East Africa	5,859	5,859
Southern Africa	24	5,185
Traditional Bantu third genders	1,584	1,584
Botswana	1,401	1,401
South Africa	2,176	2,176
Americas	16	61,607
North America	22	45,630
Early history	6,234	6,234
Canada	7,114	7,114
Haiti	4,491	4,491
Mexico	5,650	5,650
United States	22,119	22,119
South America	23	15,961
Argentina	246	246
Bolivia	529	529
Brazil	5,973	5,973
Chile	5,153	5,153
Colombia	926	926
Peru	1,554	1,554
Uruguay	1,557	1,557
Asia	11	32,239
West Asia (the Middle East)	156	7,702
Arabian peninsula	1,624	1,624
Iran	2,175	2,175
Israel and Palestine	2,588	2,588
Ottoman Empire	1,159	1,159
East Asia	18	8,070
China	4,997	4,997
Japan	3,055	3,055
South and Southeast Asia	33	16,456
Cambodia	487	487
Indian subcontinent	6,807	6,807
Indonesia	2,382	2,382
Philippines	2,695	2,695
Thailand	4,052	4,052
Europe	13	64,703
Earliest history	3,349	3,349
Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, and Byzantium	9,221	9,221
Early Scandinavia, Viking-era Norse	2,913	2,913
Middle Ages	8,674	14,774
Medieval Christian church	6,100	6,100
Balkans	2,145	2,145
Belgium	932	932
Denmark	2,713	2,713
France	4,850	4,850
Germany	7,061	7,061
Italy	2,405	2,405
Russia	1,831	2,191
Itelmens of Siberia	360	360
Soviet Union	4,873	4,873
Spain	2,353	2,353
Turkey	1,140	1,140
United Kingdom	3,770	3,770
Oceania	14	8,140
Australia	3,453	3,453
New Zealand, the Cook Islands, Niue	1,544	1,544
Samoa, Tonga, Fiji and Tahiti	3,129	3,129
See also	513	513
References	746	746
Total	192,485	192,485

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The original version of the article was created for the most part by taking portions of text from LGBT history and creating an article structure with headings somewhat mimicking that article where appropriate. For the section on #United States of America, information was mostly summarized and occasionally copied from History of transgender people in the United States. Other than that, short portions were copied or paraphrased from these articles:

from Hijra (South Asia) (version 725677002) for the section on ancient Asia.
from Magnus Hirschfeld (724927442)for the title of his 1910 book in the Germany section.
from Chevalier d'Eon (723122921) for the section on France.
from Transgender in China (723673135) for the section on China.
from Gender identities in Thailand (708833883) for the section on Thailand.

Mathglot (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assyria implausible claim

The article reads In ancient Assyria, transgender sex workers took part in public processions, singing, dancing, wearing costumes and sometimes women's clothes, and carrying feminine symbols, and even at times performing the act of giving birth. An IP removed the birth part, which is uncited, and @Youknowwhoistheman restored it. Why? It seems like vandalism. ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 13:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, actually i thought there was a vandalism, that's why i restored the version. Sorry for inconvenience. this is genuine mistake! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 13:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's alright! I'll rewrite it pending input from Mathglot. ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 13:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Zanahary, cheers and happy editing! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 13:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I've removed it, since I can't find any source. But if anyone can produce one, please add the content! ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 14:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mathglot It looks like you wrote this originally, before an IP in 2017 changed "pretending to give birth" to "performing the act of giving birth". Is this accurate? If so, do you have a source to cite (and from which we can rewrite this prose so it doesn't suggest that ancient Assyrian transgender sex workers gave birth)? ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 13:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I accept my mistake! there was a genuine mistake. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 13:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay, now I'm just asking the apparent original author of that section if they know the source from which they got that information. ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 14:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]