Talk:Tim Nolan (politician)

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Removal of KKK allegations

There is NO reference to the Ku Klux Klan in the Raw Story article that is used as a source. However, the alleged Ku Klux Klan garb is attributed to Nolan in both the lead and the body of the article. I am going to remove that right now, as it is wrong and slanderous to say that as it is not supported by the cited sources.--FeralOink (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you to whomever provided a second Raw Story link that does confirm the KKK photograph. However, http://gopfacts.org/nolan.htm is NOT state media. It is a political opposition website. I have removed the "state media" description are replaced it accordingly.--FeralOink (talk) 20:22, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 May 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move and WP:TROUT User:Tataral for personal attacks. (non-admin closure). f e minist 15:28, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Nolan (Trump campaign official) → Tim Nolan (politician) – There is another Tim Nolan so we must disambiguate. Following the AfD discussion, there was emerging consensus that the article disambiguator should not be about this individual's Trump support but rather about his political activities. The article as amended following that discussion also speaks more about his political career than anything else. However the proposed title floated at AfD "Tim Nolan (political figure)" does not use a standard disambiguator, which is why I suggest the classic "Tim Nolan (politician)". — JFG ^talk 10:58, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. -Location (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support, there is absolutely no reason for so specific a disambiguator, particularly given how minor the activity described in the disambiguator is relative to the life of the article subject. bd2412 T 14:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per my comments in the AfD. Power~enwiki (talk) 16:41, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per my comments in the AfD too. --FeralOink (talk) 09:12, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Super-obvious move. The subject is known well beyond the current narrow descriptor. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The title "Tim Nolan (Trump campaign official)" was insisted on by a single editor, User:DHeyward, against the opinion of everyone else. That is the only reason it hasn't already been moved to a title with a more general disambiguator such as politician or political figure (it was actually moved, but it was reversed by User:DHeyward). --Tataral (talk) 06:01, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

When you're disparaging editors, never go full retard. I moved it back to its original title to match the AfD title. --DHeyward (talk) 09:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move discussions are closed by administrators or "experienced and uninvolved registered editors in good standing", not by new accounts who use the discussion to harrass editors with false claims of non-existent personal attacks. --Tataral (talk) 04:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is clearly a WP:SNOWCLOSE, but feel free to challenge per WP:CLOSECHALLENGE. I'm not sure why you would want to since you !voted the same as everyone else. -Location (talk) 05:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Um, I was the editor who first attempted to move the article to a title with a more general disambiguator and I have supported politician or political figure all the time and well before this move discussion, so this isn't about that. As I already told you, the problem isn't the result itself, but the unacceptable false claim about me in the comment by the "closer" (who shouldn't have closed the discussion in the first place). --Tataral (talk) 05:23, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Um, you attempted to rename an article in the middle of an AfD and now you're here to complain (in part) that the closer who closed the discussion properly is inexperienced? Bizarre. You should take it to his or her talk page. -Location (talk) 05:30, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the creator and author of the article who had chosen the original title which I since regretted, and I was certainly entitled to move it, especially as there was wide agreement that it should be moved to the new title. The development of an article doesn't stop just because someone quite baselessly wants it to be deleted. --Tataral (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is my understanding that you can screw with the scripts when the name of the article doesn't match the name listed in the AfD, so rejecting the rename in the middle of an AfD isn't entirely "baseless". Either way, the article exists and it is named as you wish. -Location (talk) 06:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Criminal charges

This is an encyclopedia, not a place where information is published on the public record. Commits such as that of the most recent editor will be reverted if they are not first discussed on the talk page. Power~enwiki (talk) 23:53, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A second grand jury indictment is significant to the Criminal charges section and should be updated. People coming to read the article about Tim Nolan's case would benefit from more up to date information. This is not a matter of public record, rather a matter of article quality. Timnolan69 (talk) 00:24, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you tag my revision as "possible BLP issue or vandalism"? If anything you are violating the neutral point of view with omission. I disagree with your undo and request it be recommitted. Timnolan69 (talk) 00:34, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't tag your revisions, the software tags them automatically. Power~enwiki (talk) 00:38, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Only legal affairs discussed in secondary sources are suitable for this BLP page. So, a newspaper article is OK, but the court records themselves are not an acceptable source. Power~enwiki (talk) 00:40, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense, my mistake. I will update the source since it has been widely reported. Thank you for the correction and your help. I apologize for being short.Timnolan69 (talk) 00:47, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

He's the second Trump campaign chair to be convicted of child sex trafficking

The first was Ralph Shortey: https://thinkprogress.org/ex-trump-campaign-official-child-sex-trafficking-ae34904e71cf/

Should this be mentioned here and/or at Donald Trump? 185.13.106.114 (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it should be mentioned in relevant articles including Donald Trump, especially considering that he was handpicked by Trump personally as campaign chair. --Tataral (talk) 03:44, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]