Talk:Tiberius Sempronius Longus (consul 194 BC)

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Name of Tiberius's father

Livy 34.42, as cited in the article, states that this Tiberius Sempronius Longus's father was consul in the first year of the 2nd Punic War. Livy 21.15 states that the consuls of that year, 218 BCE, were P. Cornelius and Ti. Sempronius (quo P. Cornelius Ti. Sempronius consules fuerunt). According to Wikipedia Roman Naming Conventions, P. = Publius and Ti. = Tiberius, while T. = Titus. Furthermore, Polybius 3.41] calls the consul of 218 Τεβέριος (Tiberius). On the basis of these, the original sources, is it not correct to change the name of the father to Tiberius Sempronius Longus. Amphipolis 15:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His father was Titus Sempronius Longus, regardless of what Wikipedia's naming conventions may be. The sources in that article support that. Kafziel 15:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The sources cited in the other article (Plb. 3.41; Livy 21.15, 23.37) give the name as either Τεβέριος (Tiberius) or Ti. According to Wikipedia Roman Naming Conventions, Ti. = Tiberius. Names from Roman coins confirm this. This coin from the reign of emperor Tiberius has TICAESAR for Tiberius Caesar (see bottom of scanned page), whereas this coin from the reign of emperor Titus has TCAESIMP for Titus Caesar Imperator (see middle of scanned page). We shall seee what the administrators think as a move has been requested. Once that is decided, then this too is decided. But I want to ask, why "regardless of what Wikipedia's naming conventions"? I cited it not as Wikipedia's rules, but the article about how Roman's abbreviated names. There is confusion in the names sometimes, especially between M' (Manius) and M. (Marcus). But one would expect that they got the names on the imperial coins correct. Tacitus and Suetonius both call the second emperor Tiberius. It makes sense then that on coins they would use abbreviations to save space. So coins from Tiberius's reign with "Ti." on them seem to support the idea that Ti=Tiberius. So, why do you disregard that convention?--Amphipolis 16:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I stand corrected. See my vote on the other page's requested move section. Kafziel 16:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]