Talk:The Turn of the Screw (opera)

Synopsis

I have heavily revised the synopsis, removing a number of errors and assumptions, and connecting the story to the music. -- Hugh7 (talk) 20:43, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Theme

Anon user 80.109.109.123 inserted the following into the article without explanation or references (except a reference to "the score"):

The correct twelve-note theme is according to the score, p4, marked "Theme", as follows: A-D-B-E-C#-F#-D#-G#-F-Bb-G-C

This differs substantially from the (referenced) sequence in the article and has been reverted. Can anyone comment on which of the competing themes is correct? --GuillaumeTell 23:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot resolve this matter, but would like to remark that the theme given by anon user does not differ substantially but only slightly from the note example on the stave (A-D-B-E-C#-F#-G#-D#-F-Bb-G-C): the only difference is that note seven and eight have been switched. The confusion is probably due to the sequence given under the stave, which is not the theme written on the stave, but the illustration of the sequence of tetrachords in the circle of fifths.--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added scores and sound for "O why, why did I come?" "Dear God, is there no end to his dreadful ways?" and "Malo" but I didn't know this was possible a week ago, so they could be improved. I would like to add cresc. and dim. marks ("hairpins"). I shortened the slurs over "Malo" because they affect the placement of the words. Someone with more advanced Lilypond skills may be able to make it match Britten's score better. -- Hugh7 (talk) 22:40, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tone Row for The Turn of the Screw

The tone-row shown in the article is incorrect. The correct version is clearly stated on page 5 of the Full Score and repeated throughout the work. Please note that the text records the correct order D#-G#, but reverses the A-D to D-A. In the image and MIDI file, the D# and G# are reversed. I have the corrected MIDI and PNG files but Wikipedia is preventing me from uploading them. Also, the description of the row can be improved. The original is: Britten's twelve-tone 'Screw' theme divides into equivalent tetrachords, each a segment of the circle of fifths: D-A-E-B, C♯-F♯-D♯-G♯, F-B♭-G-C

The statement of the Row on page 5 of the full score is sufficient citation and does not require an article or book to document it.

I will suggest: Britten's twelve-tone 'Screw' theme [9] About this sound Play (help·info) divides into equivalent trichords, tetrachords, and hexachords, each a segment of the circle of fifths: D-A-E-B, C♯-F♯-D♯-G♯, F-B♭-G-C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marqrdt (talk • contribs) 13:58, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thousands of people upload files to Wikipedia and Commons every day. How exactly did "Wikipedia prevent you from uploading them"? What did you do and what happened?

I can find the tone row as shown and played in the overleaf article on many websites (C#–F#–G#–D#), but not C#–F#–D#–G#. OTOH, I have problems finding anything like that in the score on page 5. I see a bunch of slow crescendo chords and tremolos for 2 bars, then a tempo change and 2 bars of eights and sixteenths. Which instrument should I look at? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:14, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You may cross-check Boosey & Hawkes 18306 (freely available on the publisher's website after free registration), on page 4 marked “Theme,” 9 measures before rehearsal figure 1 in the Piano, beginning on A in the left hand. The full row is then ADBE C♯F♯D♯G♯ FB♭GC. The same row can also be found in: Smith, Sara Elizabeth. “A Study and Analysis of the Instrumental Theme and Variations in Benjamin Britten’s The Turn of the Screw,” 1983, on page 17, Example 3. Brian Ammon (talk) 10:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Instrumentation

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