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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Created by Morgan695 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 163 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Morgan695 (talk) 22:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon (but would not object to any other editor reviewing this in the interim); if ALT2's "penciled, inked, lettered, and colored by Jim Steranko, making it" somehow manages to survive WP:DYKTRIM, none of "penciled, inked, lettered, and colored" should be linked per WP:SEAOFBLUE.--Launchballer 18:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm guessing the first hook is meant to say "dispute between himself and Stan Lee"? PanagiotisZois (talk) 12:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will perform the review. Have a mild interest in the article, and just found out Jim Steranko did concept art for Coppola's Dracula; what a nice coincidence. Anyway
    • The article is new enough, having been created only about 8 days ago, which is when this nomination took place. It also has the appropriate length, being very in-depth, and well-sourced; most sources are offline from books, but I'm assuming good faith, especially given the nominator's track record. It is very much presentable, and has three images; one is the writer-artist and is CC, while the other two are the cover of the last issue of this story and an example of Steranko's visual style, which is brought up in the article itself, making them both appropriate.
    •  On hold All of the hooks are present in the article itself and properly cited. Finding the best one is somewhat tricky, as there's what the nominator finds most interesting, what I find most interesting, and what will help the article achieve the most views. Hook #3 is mildly interesting as you have the primacy effect, but I don't think it will hook many people in, so it's the other two. Either one could work, but I'm leaning more with Hook #1, mostly because it also references Stan Lee, which is a name that will attract views. The mention of a "dispute" between them is also kind of juicy. Admittedly, I found the full context behind their "dispute" kind of boring (lol), but at least the hook did its job. Unless @Morgan695: has a different hook to suggest, the only thing remaining is the QPQ. PanagiotisZois (talk) 23:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Passed. Cambalachero (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Morgan695 (talk · contribs) 18:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Cambalachero (talk · contribs) 15:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Lead
  • "fascistic"? Isn't the adjective "fascist" more common?
    • Clarified.
  • Captain America refuses to take Jones as his sidekick, but later he "defeats the Hydra henchmen with assistance from Jones". If he was not his sidekick, why did he bring him to that fight? Isn't he putting him in danger all the same?
    • Jones was already a superhero, per the Hulk's sidekick Rick Jones in the plot summary.
  • "In the ensuing conflict, Hydra is beaten back and Madame Hydra is killed". Did someone kill her on purpose, and if so, who? Or did she die by accident? (in that case, it should be "Madame Hydra died").
    • Clarified.
  • If I understood it correctly, Madame Hydra was introduced in this arc, and killed in the same story? Or the "its new leader Madame Hydra" means that her introduction was still recent?
    • Correct, Madame Hydra is both introduced and killed in this story.
Context
  • If you're going to mention the 1940s comics, you should mention its long hiatus and that the Tales of Suspense stories were made after Lee and Kirby retrieved the character in Avengers 4.
    • I think that might be excessive context for the purposes of this article; if a reader is interested in additional details about Lee and Kirby's 1940s comics, or the revival of the character in The Avengers, that's covered at Captain America.
  • It may be kinda obvious, but if you describe Captain America as a wartime superhero you should mention WWII, so that the references to Hitler and Nazis make sense.
    • Clarified.
  • Fix "revivial"
    • Corrected.
Production
  • "requested and was given" seems a bit redundant or wordy.
    • I tried to rephrase to avoid redundancy, but I think it needs to be kept this way to establish that Steranko specifically wanted to write Captain America, e.g. that it was not just a random title that Lee offered to him to resolve the dispute.
  • Add the year after "Captain America #109", as with the other specific issues mentioned.
    • Done.
Release
  • Just to clarify, was Captain America 112 a new comic by Lee & Kirby, or a reprint of an older one?
    • It was an original story.
Reception

Seems fine

Most of the article seems fine. Just fix those details and we're good to go. Cambalachero (talk) 17:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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