Talk:The Fool (Bladee album)

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Review: December 3, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Fool (Bladee album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Locust member (talk · contribs) 13:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: CarbonLollipop (talk · contribs) 03:44, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing this! Locust member (talk) 14:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'll be reviewing this article. CarbonLollipop (talk)

Content

Prose

Lead

The album was produced by Lusi with contributions from the Clibbo, Loesoe, Outtatown, Rip, and Rok. The "the" seems like a mistake.

Locust member (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrically, the album explores themes of love, illusions, and existentialism using Auto-Tuned vocals. This phrasing feels a bit awkward to me.

changed to "Using Auto-Tuned vocals, the album explores themes of love, illusions, and existentialism." Locust member (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Fool was considered one of the best albums of the year by The Fader and Dazed and further received acclaim by Pitchfork and laut.de. I would add a comma after "Dazed", and would write received further acclaim instead of further received acclaim.

Locust member (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background and release

After Bladee released two solo cloud rap albums in Exeter and 333 during 2020, he and the musician Mechatok released the collaborative album Good Luck later in 2020. Good Luck featured a sound that delved more into electronic dance music. The phrasing of the first sentence could be improved; you could try something like In 2020, Bladee released two solo cloud rap albums, Exeter and 333. Later that year, he collaborated with musician Mechatok on Good Luck, an album that delved more into electronic dance music.

Locust member (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Composition

Y All good!

Critical reception

Y All good!

Other sections

Y All good, these sections conform to WP:ALBUMSTYLE.

MoS

Nicolaus Li of Hypebeast described the album's instrumentals as "frenetic", and that they're "dominated by tittering hi-hats and bouncing bass hits." MOS:CONTRACTION, they're → they are.

Locust member (talk) 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He also pointed out that the album had an increased pace when compared to Exeter and 333. "pointed out" is listed at MOS:SAY. This isn't that big of an issue but it's better to just write "said" here.

Locust member (talk) 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Salvatore Maicki of The Fader wrote that during the album, Bladee's fears, infatuations, trials and tribulations hide in plain sight. The rest of the article uses Oxford commas so one should be used here as well for consistency.

Locust member (talk) 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

Layout

Y The article meets criteria 2a.

Reliability of sources

Y Fantano's opinion is attributed to him in accordance with WP:FANTANO.
Y All other sources are considered generally reliable.
~~? Not sure about the reliability of The Miscellany News... according to their website it's a student newspaper. I couldn't find any discussions about it and very few articles use it as a source.~~

I used this as a source per WP:UNIN and WP:RSSM, student newspapers are considered generally reliable for verifiying information and should be used on a case-by-case basis. Since the notability of this article is not solely reliant on this source, and it's not used for biographical information of a living person, I believed it was a valid use of a student article as it's simply attributed opinion and information. Locust member (talk) 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out to me. CarbonLollipop (talk) 03:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spot check

[1] clock In 2020, Bladee released two solo cloud rap albums, Exeter and 333. The Fader article doesn't explicitly state that Exeter is a cloud rap album.

I added a source from Pitchfork that called Exeter a "blissful pop" album and attributed it. Locust member (talk) 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[4] Y
[7] Y
[12] Y
[14] Y

Copyright violations

On the track, Bladee's voice switches between a "whispered scream" and a rapped falsetto. The copyvio tool picked this sentence up; I suggest rephrasing it, attributing it to The Miscellany News, or simply removing it.

I attributed it Locust member (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

From the lead: Frequent collaborator Thaiboy Digital is featured on the track "Inspiration Comes". None of the sources mention that he's a frequent collaborator, however the Pitchfork review of the album states that he's a member of Drain Gang, so maybe you could mention that instead.

Locust member (talk) 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other issues

Thaiboy Digital is featured on "Inspiration Comes", a track in which the production was described as "major" by Li. In the Hypebeast article, Li was saying that The Fool had a lot of production from Lusi.

Looks really obvious now that you mention it...🤦‍♂️ I replaced with a description of the song's lyrics from laut.de Locust member (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scope

Y All good!

Other

Y No issues with neutrality or stability. The album cover is included under fair use.

Final comments

Some tiny nitpicks before I pass this article:

The album was produced by Lusi with contributions from Clibbo, Loesoe, Outtatown, Rip, and Rok. It might not be necessary to list every single producer in the lead, especially since they're not particularly notable. Maybe just include that Lusi produced most of it.

Locust member (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In 2020, Bladee released two solo albums: Exeter, a "blissful pop" album according to Pitchfork, and 333, a cloud rap album according to The Fader. The attribution kind of messes with the flow of the prose.

I just removed the mentions of the genres; originally I wanted to show that Good Luck was a different sound for Bladee, but that doesn't have much context for The Fool. The only importance is that The Fool scales back the sounds used in Good Luck, which I kept in the Composition section. Locust member (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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