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There should be a discussion on whether to merge this page with English Ave (Atlanta), as it describes the same neighborhood and contains much of the same information.Deelzbub (talk) 14:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I have interviewed people who live in the neighborhood and the boundaries of this neighborhood are not as they're listed as on here. From every person I've talked to the universal agreement is that "The Bluff" doesn't go south of Simpson (Boone). Anyone from anywhere around this area can tell you that. South of Simpson is Vine City and the old Eagan homes (which is now part of Vine City). Also see the NBC report, even they said, "The bluff, IN English Avenue". It doesn't include "English Avenue", it IS English Avenue. Some folks I've talked to only refer to the northeast quadrant of English Avenue as the Bluff. This article is way off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.76.96 (talk) 03:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

that may well be true but I was the one who put the boundaries in this article based on exact boundaries defined by the AJC which say it goes down to King and so includes Vine City, look at reference number 2, thats where it comes from. And the thing is, information on wikipedia is supposed to be, well actually HAS to be, traceable to a "reliable" source like AJC.Keizers (talk)

Reference #2 is a dead link, and is a reference to Neighborhood Planning Unit L, which says nothing about where "The Bluff" is. 98.192.76.96 (talk) 12:18, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, went back. Ref #1 is what you're talking about. There comes a point where news sources can get things wrong, especially about a turbulent community not many are willing to venture into. When you've got 7, 8 people who have lived in the neighborhood who can verify that what's called "The Bluff" doesn't include anything south of Simpson, what is the recourse? 98.192.76.96 (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think there were greater issues than just that and so I took action.
First, you showed me that The Bluff is a really not very well defined subsection of English Avenue (and some mistakenly claim, Vine City). So that tells me that a "Bluff" article should really be about the information that we find in the press about the "Bluff", but since the geography is not well defined, it would not be an appropriate place to put the history of, say, English Avenue and Vine City.
So at first I was thinking, let's keep this Bluff article about the "Bluff" stuff, and put the history of English Avenue and Vine City (also transit, etc. - general neighborhood stuff) in the articles for the individual neighborhoods.
But then looking at it, the history is so interrelated with some of the "Bluff" stuff that you cannot just do that. For example, 11 Alive did a whole series of reports in December 2011 about revitalization in the general English Avenue area, but all their reports came under the title of the Bluff. So there was no easy way to have separate articles.
Then take into consideration that almost every neighborhood organization in Vine City and English Avenue, and almost every development plan, covers both English Avenue and Vine City together.
So... I merged it all into one article. At the beginning paragraph I included several references showing how the neighborhoods are often considered together - which establishes a reason why they can be combined into one Wikipedia article. See if you agree. Keizers (talk) 15:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is much better, it makes a lot more sense, since the previous iterations made the geography pretty confusing. Thanks a ton for the effort! 98.192.76.96 (talk) 08:11, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wow!

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Just wanted to say whoever improved the page did a great job! 98.192.85.37 (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree! As a resident of Vine City, this page does do it justice. There are a few things I disagree with but overall, I enjoy it. I love all the new photo additions! Frankster200277 (talk) 22:50, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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