Talk:Tarakote Raj

Citation clean up

There seems to be some back and forth regarding the citations. That is why I am creating a discussion here. I have verified few citations .

One titled "TWO FORGOTTEN MUGHAL SUBADARS OF ORISSA" . The article does not mention Tarakote state or Syed Habibullah Ali Mirja.
The citation titled "Muslim Economic administration in Odisha" also does not mention Tarakote.
The citation titled "RAJA MANSINGH AND THE FINAL CONQUEST OF ORISSA BY THE MUGHALS" does not mention Tarakote or other details.
The citation titled "MUSLIM INSCRIPTIONS OF ODISHA" does not mention Tarakote. It only mentions Jajpur and the Mosque at Jajpr that is closest to Tarakote.
The Citation titled "Muslim Administration in Orissa (1568-1751) | Odisha State Archive" seems to be an offline citation . The same book is available on google books . https://books.google.com.sg/books?redir_esc=y&id=Co8eAAAAMAAJ . This also does not mention Tarakote.
None of the citations mention the rulers of Tarakote.

In light of the above I am restoring the verification failed tags. Please do not remove it until the issues are fixed. Spbal (talk) 04:38, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then ! I will leave a message on the writers talk page and ask them to improve it by adding valid citiations.

Narniazepacha66 (talk) 05:22, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's really sad that the name of state isn't mentioned in the sources. Tarakote was definitely a Quasi princely Zamindari estate during the Maratha and the British rule. The Santsahi mosque inscription bears this fact along with the name of it's founder. The Shahi Kabristaan too has his grave. We all need to understand how poorly history has been documented in Odisha. Even if something has been documented, it isn't available online. Let me know what I can do for providing you and wiki with additional citations. Even the other quasi princely states like Darpan do not find mention anywhere. Will it work if we remove these citations ?! Or can you help me find suitable citations ?

Warm regards Riyyan Farooq (talk) 05:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your contentions that many important parts of Odisha history is not properly researched. However Wikipedia is and collection of existing knowledge.So It needs reliable sources as per WP:RS policy.Offline resources are acceptable. You need to mention the publication name,Year of publication, Publisher and author name for that. Not every editor is expert in everything. So if there are some cleanup citations keep them as it is. May be someone with better knowledge will be able to fill in the citations. Clean up tags are meant to improve wikipedia. You may consider asking in odia wikipedia if any experts can guide you with Odia publications regarding the subject. Also I am adding this page to Odisha project. That might help. Spbal (talk) 06:53, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much ! I shall search up the translations of Todar Mal's accounts of Odisha too, in case something surfaces from it. Cheers ! Riyyan Farooq (talk) 09:21, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not about other princely states of Odisha.

This article talks about Shergarh-Tarakote, which along with Dhammnagar, Ratnagiri and Darpan were the only 4 quasi princely estates of Odisha which were ruled by Muslim dynasties. Shergarh-Tarakote is the only estate which still has recorded history, most of which were burnt in 1940 in a fire. However the remaining records written in Persian, still throw a lot of light on the history of the region and the genealogy of its rulers, which I've added as references. The other estates however were completely dissolved by the British. Tarakote managed to remain a Zamindari estate under the British rule, hence it deserves a mention in the web. There is another particular book written by Rabi Sathpathy titled " Panchasaha Barsa atita itihasa ra mukhasakhi Madhupurgada sanglna sukindagada balaramapurgada Pacchikote eban chousuthipada rajabansa parichaya" which mentions about the rulers and the history. If you look the web, there is no info about the neighbouring territories of Tarakote, including Sukindagada, Balaramapurgada. However this doesn't mean that the area doesn't have history that needs to be recorded or told. Jonas7798 (talk) 14:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]