Talk:Tarkhan (Punjab)

Suzanne Virdee

What is your source for including Suzanne Virdee in the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.76.113 (talk) 22:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think whether Suzanne likes it or not she cannot deny her father is a Sikh --62.25.106.209 (talk) 13:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Virdee last name is the biggest source of all. Hillarious as it is anyone that knows the punjabi social and caste heirarchy knows that 'virdee' is a 'Jatt' and 'Tarkhan' clan's last name.Virdi gotra is found among jatts and tarkhans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.76.44 (talk) 07:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

regard to S. Pargat Singh Matharu

He is very well known classical singer. if any one knows what classical music is. please do not take of from listing. if any one has doubt about ask any sikh or none sikh classical music listner about pargat singh matharu. thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.64.194 (talk) 19:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tarkhans, remnants of Sogdian colonies of modern Pakistan and India

Hallo everybody,

the term Takhan is of Sogdian origine. The Tarkhan people could be a remnants of those ancient Sogdians that colonies as Buddhists and to a small part as Shiva-Worshipper northwest India and Pakistan since Sogdians were very good and famous merchants. They also reached Europe and a remnants of them still live in the Balkan region. Most represent descandts of Sogdians are modern Tajiks, eastern Persians who live in Pakistan, particularly in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kashmir and India (Delhi and Bombey). Don´t exchange them with their Parsee brothers. At least you could add this information there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.199.190 (talk) 13:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sports Personalities

Mandeep Singh Bhogal AKA Iron Singh, American bodybuilder. www.myspace.com/ironsingh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prabhkaur85 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tarkhan Gotras(clans)

Just add in Tarkhan Gotras(clans), that, Many Tarkhan clans are also cross-listed as Jat, Gujjar, Khatris and Rajput, due to Tarkhans having the same racial lineage and racial type as these ethnic tribes. 122.163.204.38 (talk) 17:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relation of Tarkhan

Sikh Tarkhan(Ramgarhia) are closely related to Khatri, Jatt, Gujjar, Rajput, Lohar and Kamboj tribe.Because of their relation, the surnames of these tribes cross-listed.user:msnanda Msnanda (talk) 11:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)--Msnanda (talk) 11:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Indefinite semi-protection Msnanda (talk) 12:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotection review

14:26, 23 June 2008 Dbachmann protected Tarkhan (Punjab) ‎ (anonymous edit warring [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

That was nearly 16 months ago. I'd like to review this to see if semiprotection is still necessary. As well as welcoming comments from regular editors I've contacted Dbachmann, the protecting admin. --TS 17:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But keep a close eye, I am sure they will return. Thanks --Sikh-History 07:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

baba Khokhar

khokhars are not Tarkhans they are Rajputs. Please Edit baba bhai roop chand ji name from tarkhan list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.122.123 (talk) 20:52, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually you are wrong. Their families merged with Tarkhan. The Bagrian family (as they are known now), are well known activists in the Tarkhan community. Thanks --Sikh-History 07:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CITE

I have removed all unreferenced material from the article. Unreferenced information is useless even if it is "true". WP:CITE is not negotiable. Please feel free to add back information with proper references (WP:RS). --dab (𒁳) 09:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

also, make the sources preferably date from after 1950. Basing caste articles on 19th century British census efforts is just of historical interest, we can document that this caste of carpenters existed back around 1880 or so. This says nothing about their current state or even continued existence. --dab (𒁳) 14:42, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The British are probably the best sources for caste related information. HA Rose etc have carried out the most detailed studies in this matter. It is the basis for most studies carried out today. Regards.--Sikh-History 14:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to bring your kind notice towards this point that Janjuas are the most prominent Rajput and Jat caste in Punjab, india and pakistan. they are being mentioned in 36 Royal races. And never mentioned in anywhere in history that Janjua is the tribe of Tarhaas kindly remove this from the list and correct the history. Even if a Tarhan use the Sur Name as janjua, he says that he is a Rajput Janjua but not Tarhaan. Kindly remove it form the articel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.209.115 (talk) 07:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It has a reference so it stays. SH 17:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide the reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.170.231 (talk) 18:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Try clicking on it, you'll see it. SH 19:03, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did not find any reference yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.201.96 (talk) 14:08, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't stop messing around with this article you will get blocked. SH 15:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:16, 17 June 2010 (UTC).[reply]

How can they or who are they (Paramjit S Judge and Gurpreet Bal) to decide what H. A. Rose,Denzil Ibbetson and William Crooke supposed? This is absurd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramgarhia Munda (talk • contribs) 20:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PROD, copyvio

If there is any copyvio here I haven't found it, I think this is a response to a copyvio warning I gave the editor who keeps adding material from a Sikh wiki. Dougweller (talk) 12:43, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He keeps adding that nonsense. I've given him a final warning. Thanks SH 12:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There was masses of copy/paste from unreliable websites, at least one of which seemed to mirror Wikipedia. I reverted to get round that problem and then trimmed the known unreliable remainder. I've also got no idea why this article is named as at present - it should be at Tarkhan (tribe), Tarkhan tribe or some other variant that involves a lower-cased second word. - Sitush (talk) 02:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1921 census

No Raj era census was particularly reliable, for a bunch of reasons. Census of India prior to independence gives a fair few of them. - Sitush (talk) 16:32, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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No caste is high or second

No caste is first or second ,generally gernal categories castes declared as high castes so we can not mention in this article tarkhan is second to jat tarkhan is backward castes Flyengineer (talk) 02:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tarkhan is second to jat what does it mean

Castes exists in mind only remove second to jat line Manvir Malik (talk) 10:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Read properly, both the content and the source. [1] It specifically says that Sikhism prohibits Indian caste system, but it talks about socio-economic hierarchy, according to which Tarkhans are second to Jatts among Sikhs. Nothing about caste or casteism is mentioned.

Tarkhan is equated with the Lohar (another article). They are not Lohar themselves, so cannot add the Himachal Pradesh source [2] which only mentions "Lohar". You need to remove that, that's typical original research

Besides Wikipedia shows information as is. We do not take a moral high ground on things that totally exist in the society. Let the Indian government disband caste classification for starters. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:11, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

False Link !!

Link provided by User:Grayson Indica doesn't say anything about Tarkhans becoming Jangid Brahmans in 20th century, Tarkhan is a North Indian/Punjabi Tribe and Jangid is a Caste from Haryana. These two have no connection between them. --☬ ਰਾਮਗੜ੍ਹੀਆ ਮੁੰਡਾ ☬ ^☎ 21:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To add origin word of Hindu Tarkhan(carpenter)

Tarkhan is corrupt version of sanskrit word Takshaka(तक्षक) which means carpenter. yes if it's aobut caste/community specially carpenters it is important to add original word Takshaka because it's comes from ancient architecture and 'vaastu. I hope you will understand add it pls go through Vastu section to know the meaning of Takshaka https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/takshaka and my recent edit already reference are added. ^[1]^[2] Vishwabrahman52 (talk) 14:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vishwabrahman52: Tarkhan and Takshaka' in any of the sources you provided. It was plain original research from your part. Besides you have removed existing sources and sourced content as well as added info on architecture and vaastu which are irrelevant in a a caste article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Vibhuti Chakrabarti (2013). Indian Architectural Theory and Practice: Contemporary Uses of Vastu Vidya. Routledge. pp. 3, 1–4. ISBN 978-1-136-77882-7.
^ BB Dutt (1925). Town Planning in Ancient India. Gyan Publishing House. pp. 168, 3–168. ISBN 978-81-8205-487-5.

[:0-1] Vibhuti Chakrabarti (2013). Indian Architectural Theory and Practice: Contemporary Uses of Vastu Vidya. Routledge. pp. 3, 1–4. ISBN 978-1-136-77882-7.

[:1-2] BB Dutt (1925). Town Planning in Ancient India. Gyan Publishing House. pp. 168, 3–168. ISBN 978-81-8205-487-5.

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