Talk:Supine (temperament)

The article needs some rewriting to take a neutral POV about the Arnos' theoretical approach. This seems to be, after all, a fairly young theory. --chonak, 2006/01/08

I'll have to speak again to Mr. Arno regarding this, since it is he who wanted it put that way. For the meantime; I am adding a new article: Five Temperaments that explains more how this was dicovered.Eric B 15:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After reading the Five Pillars article of WP principles, I think a good way to bring these articles toward neutral POV is to cite published sources for the material in "Supine" as much as possible. The article would not be a direct statement of Mr. Arno's point of view, but would become a neutral description of Arno's theory. Chonak 08:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I have to come clean and admit that the only sources for this are the Arno's material itself. When I first added this information to the "Four Humors" article, and then moved it here; I hadn't yet quite grasped that this was really his own theory, to a certain extent. And I hadn't fully grasped the WP principles on sources and NPOV yet, so I figured "If it exists, it can have an article".

When you first made the comment above from Jan., I realized it needed more support, and then created the Five Temperaments article, showing how this was derived from FIRO B. So it is not something he totally conjured up out of the blue; but now I hope he doesn't disapprove of that article. I also found another organization called Worley's Identity Discovery Profile, which uses a nearly identical system, except that the questionnaire has more questions, and some of the names are changed (Supine is "Introverted Sanguine", for instance). So he seems to claim no connection to either FIRO-B or APS. Since the Arno's claim to have discovered this; I don't know whether there is any legal dispute or whatever, or maybe he just has the sole rights to the name "Supine", but it does show that five temperament theory in practice is not really exclusive to the Arno's.

If I had thought of the Five Temperament article first; I probably never would have started this one. So maybe it should just come down, as the other article explains it better anyway; or maybe have one of those tags put up. Eric B 03:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merging this page into Five Temperaments sounds like a good idea. I'll try to do that. Chonak 05:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, just did it. Since most of the info was already in the Five Temperaments article, it was just a matter of copying the last paragraph, and a portion of the previous one over there.Eric B 14:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]