Talk:Sticky keys/Archive 1

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Well at least you have let the rest of us know that no-one knows how to turn it off. Microsoft Help and knowledge base have no entry for Sticky Keys ...

You can turn em off without modifying or damaging Windows, you know. --Isequals 04:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

This article seems to be a bit Windows-centric, different desktops have different ways to activate sticky keys. Klacquement 00:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

sticky keys is teh ghey

If there IS a way to turn them off maybe someone should write it into the article. I just spent a good 15 minutes trying to get my keyboard to work again. It wouldn't even let me turn the computer off. (Bishusui 03:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC))

There is a way to turn it off. Open up Control Panel: Accessibility Options and there's a Sticky Keys box right at the top (under the "keyboard" tab). Disable it, and perhaps also disable the Settings "Use Shortcut" option as well. Tada! -JC 09:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

That is how i turned mine off. I don't see how you guys find it so hard to turn it off

warranted Criticism

I have removed this from the main article, contributed by an anonymous user:

In addition it is virtually useless for 99.999% of all computer users and it will turn on when you do not want it to, and it takes a google "Sticky Keys" search to determine how to turn it off and there is no way to completely disable this "feature". Under the category of "wonderfully ingenious, and creative ideas that should never have been invented" Sticky Keys is very highly rated. Benefits of Sticky Keys include "Distracting the train of thought of the user at the least opportune moment such as when you are in the middle of a very important report, or writing a novel or balancing a financial spreadsheet". Sticky Keys has been reported as being non-Sarbane Oxley compliant.

I must respond to this. Sticky Keys is useful for some users, especially those with physical handicaps (and thus an inability to press two keys simultaneously). Perhaps it isn't useful for everyone, but this is an accessibility option. It will only turn on if you have it enabled --- and it is extremely easy (without resorting to Google) to disable by going into the Accessibility settings in Control Panel (which it tells you to do so when you enable Sticky Keys --- it tells you what you've done, and how to change it if you want to). This baseless disregard for the usefulness of Sticky Keys (for those with disabilities) and overexaggeration of the difficulties involved in disabling it is very much against Wikipedia's policies of both NOR and NPOV. Really, now, I disabled Sticky Keys for my computer (as I would find it frustrating to happen whenver I hit shift a few times while I'm thinking about what I'm typing) and it was as easy and painless as disabling a screensaver. -JC 02:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I must respond to this response. Sticky Keys is useless for virtually everyone but Microsoft put it in and enables it to be turned on by default. The first three times I ran into this problem it took me over an hour of searching the web for what it is, and how to turn it off because, as typical, Windows will tell you what you did wrong and which low-level check box to change but IT DOES NOT TELL YOU HOW TO GET THERE TO CHANGE IT. Of course it is extremely easy to disable when you already know how to do it, because you had to go research the steps several times over two years. Also, disabling Sticky Keys is not as easy as the help files will make it seem: Turning it On and Off is different from Disabling it. This is not detailed anywhere in help. So once you've turned it off after an hour of cursing Bill Gates, it may still be enabled so you will run into it again several months later. Fortunately this total disregard for the wants and needs of 99.999999999% of Windows users has not stopped Microsoft from telling you what you want - so they enable it by default. I have been writing software and using computers for over 25 years and I have not met anyone who uses Sticky Keys, and those I have met with disabilities use special and better quality interfaces and keyboards.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.236.143.130 (talk • contribs) 00:53, 28 February 2007.

I will respond again: when you first activate StickyKeys, it tells you what you've done, immediately. It says, and I quote:

Pressing the SHIFT key 5 times turns on StickyKeys. StickyKeys lets you use the SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, or Windows Logo keys by pressing one key at a time.

To keep StickyKeys on, click OK.

To cancel StickyKeys, click Cancel.

To deactivate the key combination for StickyKeys, click Settings.

I then press "Settings" and it opens the accessibility options. At the top is the StickyKeys section. It has a checkbox to see if you want to use StickyKeys, and describes it as allowing you to use the aforementioned keys by pressing one key at a time. There's a Settings button here, too. Pressing it brings up another screen with a rather obvious checkbox saying "use shortcut". So with that disabled, you'll never activate the StickyKeys shortcut.

I'm sorry, but I find that really easy to disable. Regardless of your experiences, I think you're overplaying it simply because of the lack of particularly detailed documention (it may be misleading to say that "Use StickyKeys" is off, but still have the shortcut enabled, but that's not an issue with the option --- pressing shift five times just toggles StickyKeys on and off, so turning StickyKeys off means you can still turn it on again using the shortcut. It's the shortcut people can't figure out to disable for some reason, even though it's fairly obvious how to do that). -JC 08:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem so many people have is that even when you press cancel to turn it off, it doesn't turn off. In my office, a cheer goes up whenever we hear the infamous "sticky keys enabled" sound effect because it means that person is stuck with it for the next 10 minutes or so until it somehow gets switched off by some method unbeknownst to the user. I don't doubt that it's a useful feature for some, but it is lousily implemented. Potkettle 14:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

...You check "Use Shortcut" off in the Sticky Keys settings page. When you activate Sticky Keys, it tells you this. Also, pressing any two keys at once will automatically turn Sticky Keys off, according to the default settings. The only trouble with its implementation (which I don't think is warranted of criticism, since it's only because people for some reason can't figure it out) is that people can't seem to figure out that turning off "Use Sticky Keys" won't disable the Sticky Keys shortcut (it'll only stop using Sticky Keys for the time being). The fact that nobody bothers to read the documentation or try at all figuring it out for themsevles - well, that's not Microsoft's problem. -JC 04:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for proving my point! Sticky Keys is enabled by default, no one wants or uses it, turning it off is different from disabling it, disabling it is not easy or obvious, and the inventor of sticky keys should be forced to use sticky keys for the rest of their natural born life. He or she should also have a special program installed in their car that randomly causes their gas peddle to stick to the floor when in mountainous or hilly areas, causing the car to continue accelerating until such time as they press the horn, open the glove box, step on the brake peddle five times (and only five times), and rotate the steering wheel four full turns to the right. Disabling such feature will not be allowed.

Bad analogy. It's not that difficult. It's enabled by default, yes, but when you say "no one wants or uses it" you'd be incorrect - some might have a great use for it, especially elderly people and the disabled (which is who it's there for). Disabling it is TWO CLICKS away from simply turning it off (you just go into the Settings and turn off the shortcut). It's hardly a complicated process, and is easily turned off. It's also by default set to turn off as soon as two keys are pressed at once, so if you just go on using the keyboard like you normally would, it won't have any effect on you at all - because you'll press Shift and another key at once rather quickly, I should think. -JC 04:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

WRONG> PRESSING TWO KEYS AT ONCE DOES NOT WORK> MY TYPING LIKE THIS IS EVIDENCE TO THIS FACT> I CAN"T BELIEVE YOU"RE ARGUING IN DEFENSE OF THE WAY THIS IS SET UP> JC YOU MUST BE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET WHO WOULD THINK OF DOING SUCH A THING>

NOW DON"T GO AND PULL THE PC CARD ON US< THERE IS NO REASON IT SHOULD BE SO DIFFICULT TO UNDO A FEATURE A TINY FRACTION OF PEOPLE FIND USEFUL _ SURE YOU CAN DISABLE THE "FEATURE" TO AVOID FUTURE INCIDENTS< BUT IT SHOULD BE EASIER TO UNDO ITS EFFECT AT THE MOMENT I NEED IT TO BE UNDONE> PRESSING TWO KEYS AT ONCE DOES NOT WORK<

IT SHOULD BE FIVE SECONDS OF THE SHIFT KEY TO TURN IT ON AND FIVE TO TURN IT OFF> I STILL CAN"T BELIEVE THAT JC IS ACTUALLY DEFENDING THE FEATURE WHICH I CANNOT TURN OFF AT THE MOMENT> MAYBE JC JUST LIKES TO ARGUE IN FAVOR OF UNPOPULAR POSITIONS> THAT SAID< WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MURDERING KITTENS JC? I THINK IT IS A BAD IDEA>

Please sign your comments with four tildes. Also, all caps is considered rude so I would suggest you avoid it, even when "attempting" to make a point. Also, I 'just' tested, and when I pressed "Control + T" with StickyKeys enabled, it disabled StickyKeys when it opened my new tab. Perhaps you had disabled the option "Turn StickyKeys off when two keys are pressed at once" ? That one's enabled by default, though, so I don't know why you'd change that and then complain you can't. -JC 16:25, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

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In my experience, and in the experience of others I know, there seems no way one can express "Unwarranted Criticism" at Sticky Keys or its creator. I would have thought that even a pre primary school child would know how appalling it is after unintentionally encountering it; and note how it is apparently only there to frustrate the user and cause as much intense rage as is humanly possible via a PC. There is surely nothing that can be said that isn't warranted. If a disabled individual finds these functions useful then they should be separate downloadable applications that can be installed by the individual who sets up their PC. To inflict it on the rest of us can only be the act of either someone who is incapable of seeing the consequences of such thoughtless action, or who knew full well but had a sadistic streak. In either case they should be no longer employed in a position where they can cause such havoc, and stress to millions of decent individuals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.120.136 (talk) 15:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I posted the original criticism and yet again I'm on a new computer and Sticky Keys was enabled by default and yet again it screwed me and I still believe the creater of sticky keys should be suitably waterboarded until he or she realizes their mistake at making MS believe this is useful for anyone other than 0.0000001% of computer users. All they had to do was turn it off AND disabled by default but NOOOOO... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.236.143.130 (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

It warms my heart

to know that so many other people HATE STICKY KEYS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by24.45.0.133 (talk) 00:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

It's funny, because I just disabled it in 5 seconds... and that's on Vista. Don't want to take the five seconds to turn it off, then get Linux. --76.188.148.173 (talk) 21:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I went into accessibility options, "disabled it", and "turned it off." I also tried doing it via holding down shift and pressing cancel. Neither worked. I'm thinking I'm going to have to buy a new computer if there is no known solution to this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.196.159.132 (talk) 14:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

To turn off Stickykeys, and not have any wierd sort of caps lock going on or lack of scroll...

PRESS BOTH SHIFTS AT ONCE.

I am very suprised noone has worked that out or mentioned it. Hope this helps, it was the bane of my computing life.

James—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.239.83 (talk) 21:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)