Talk:Special Minister of State

This article is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party)) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Australia: Politics Low‑importance

	Australia portal Special Minister of State is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian politics (assessed as Mid-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Now 2 separate SMOSs

There's now a separate portfolio called Special Minister of State for the Public Service and Integrity. It's within the PM and Cabinet portfolio. The familiar Special Minister of State is within the Finance and Deregulation portfolio.

Gary Gray has been given both these portfolios, which will undoubtedly lead to some confusion. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need to clarify role

"...responsible for defining parliamentary entitlements, which includes responsibilities with..."

I find that confusing - how can "entitlements" include "responsibilities"? (They might be connected, but seem quite different.) Also needs to be more specific.

A quick google search finds a column stating that the SMOS is "a ministry straddling electoral reform, parliamentary perks, taxpayer-funded advertising and a few other recurrent political nightmares""[1] - However I'm not clear if that includes confusion over the Special Minister of State for the Public Service and Integrity role mentioned by Jack of Oz above. --Chriswaterguy talk 02:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan/Cormann?

The incumbent listed in the main text and in the upper right is Scott Ryan. The list of Ministers however lists it as Matthias Cormann. Ryan is apparently correct according to:

http://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_library/parliamentary_handbook/current_ministry_list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.47.207 (talk) 11:16, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Numbering?

Why is Mick Young not numbered in the list? He held the position longer than anyone in the period from 1972 to 2001? 1.127.107.170 (talk) 07:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]