Talk:Sidharth Malhotra

His personal profile is wrong!

this is the correct information ! Sidharth Malhotra was born to Sunil Malhotra and Rimma Malhotra in Delhi. His Father is captain in the Merchant Navy and his mother is a Housewife.Sidharth, but left after career in modeling.

1. ¶

The names of his parents is different from the info box in the early life section. Which names are correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anusha.malhotra (talk • contribs) 14:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

References

Edit request on 20 November 2012

Please change birthday 17 November 1987 to 16 January 1985 Sidharth Malhotra has stated his birthday to be on 16 January on Twitter-"Sidharth Malhotra ‏@S1dharthM @samra1khan ok my bday is on the 16th of Jan guys n as for next film is concerned still reading options." https://twitter.com/S1dharthM He also stated he was born in 1985 as stated in this interview-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVaLi94P7vI TaraG16 (talk) 11:45, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

 Not done. Neither of those are reliable sources. gwickwire | Leave a message 00:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 November 2012

Sidharth Malhotra has stated his birthday is on January 16, 1985, and his parents are Sunil and Rimma Malhotra. This is listed http://sidharthmalhotra.net/bio/, which is also listed as a second reference on this page.

Sidharth Malhotra

image = Siddharth Malhotra at the promo launch of 'Student Of The Year'.jpg | imagesize = | Caption = Sidharth Malhotra at the promo launch of Student Of The Year | Name = Sidharth Malhotra | Occupation = Actor, Model | Birth_Date = 31 December 1987 (age 27), New Delhi| Parents = Mr. Sunil Malhotra,Merchant Navy (Father) Mrs. Leema Malhotra (Mother)|

 Done --Anbu121 (talk me) 07:18, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Lead

The lead of this article is a little short (two sentences) to address its content. Ideally, the lead should at least touch on all of the article's subsections. This should be fixed for it to pass GA. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:37, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2016

Haffi988 (talk) 12:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2017

please Add Brylcreem in the list of endorsements in 'other work' part of the wiki. Link for proof, http://www.imdb.com/news/ni60037225/ Raulnayak (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDb is generally not a reliable source. —MRD2014 📞 contribs 00:50, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Another proof can be the official Brylcreem page where he features. https://www.facebook.com/brylcreemindia/ It is a well known fact in India. Raulnayak (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2019

Add Naval Public School to his schooling. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_Children_School,_Delhi Arun Dabas 26 (talk) 17:33, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia cannot be used as a source for itself; the information needs to be cited from published sources outside of Wikipedia. See WP:CIRCULAR for further information. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Career section years (1.1) is too long

Hi All,

I propose we should further split the section (1.1) "Early life, film debut and early films (1985–2015)." If it says in 1.2 that he went through a "subsequent decline", was his earlier career going well?

It's confusing for the reader. I think we should split it for it to be more detailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voraciousdolphin (talk • contribs) 15:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2021

"Change While the success of these films was anticipated to further his career, Malhotra faced commercial struggles with financial failures in his subsequent releases - the time travel romantic drama Baar Baar Dekho (2016), the action-comedy A Gentleman (2017), the whodunit thriller Ittefaq (2017), the action thriller Aiyaary (2018), the romantic drama Jabariya Jodi (2019) and the masala drama Marjaavaan (2019), all of which negatively impacted his career to Sidharth Malhotra further starred in - the time travel romantic drama Baar Baar Dekho (2016), the action-comedy A Gentleman (2017), the whodunit thriller Ittefaq (2017), the action thriller Aiyaary (2018), the romantic drama Jabariya Jodi (2019) and the action drama Marjaavaan (2019)" BrianaShah (talk) 04:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. I'm unsure why you want to make that change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2021 (2)

"Remove Malhotra performed at an event in 2013 alongside Dhawan, Bhatt, Aditya Roy Kapur, Shraddha Kapoor and Huma Qureshi to raise funds for the flood-affected victims of Uttarakhand.[34]" BrianaShah (talk) 05:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

•  Already done -ink&fables «talk» 15:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Accolades

Add the latest accolade that he received for Shershaah in 2022, the "Dadasaheb Phalke Best Actor Critics Award" under his accolades section Rajj77 (talk) 18:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Sidharth Malhotra's Filmfare Glamour And Style Awards, Vogue Beauty Awards, Hindustan Times Most Stylish Awards, and GQ Awards

How are Filmfare Glamour And Style Awards, Vogue Beauty Awards, Hindustan Times Most Stylish Awards, and GQ Awards not considered to be notable awards? These are important awards which are awarded every year to public figures. Please do not remove these awards as these are notable awards of high importance. These awards are mentioned on all other celebrities' pages as well. Please refrain from making unnecessary changes. SaUp2014 (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: Kindly read WP:FILMCRITICLIST, in simple words, if an award has it's own page on Wikipedia than it could be considered and added otherwise not. Filmfare Awards are notable but not Filmfare Glamour And Style Awards, similarly Vogue India, GQ, Hindustan Times, etc are notable magazines/newspapers, but their award ceremonies aren't, hence can't be considered. And please read WP:WHATABOUTX and WP:OTHERCONTENT, as it isn't necessary that if other xyz article(s) have something or anything mentioned than you also have to mention the same on some other article. I hope this has become clear. ManaliJain (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain: Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. How are these not eligible to be added into the "In the media" section? As you mentioned, Filmfare, Vogue India, GQ, and Hindustan Times are notable magazines/newspapers. Then, explain how are these not part of "media"? Also, the updates were put up there according to the 4 items already present in the section which are from The Times of India. SaUp2014 (talk) 14:18, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: There is nothing disruptive about ManaliJain's edits; as the notices on your user talk page explain, when you add content and your additions are reverted (more then once, by different editors), you need to discuss here on the talk page first and not restore the content unless you get a consensus in favour of inclusion. "In the media" is not another "accolades" section, and should't include a bulleted list of media "awards". The purpose of that section would be to discuss in prose (as opposed to a list) media portrayals of Malhotra. For instance, if a secondary source such as a book about his life mentions his being selected as "Most Attractive Man" three times by some newspaper, that info could be mentioned here. But listing all those individual non-notable top lists with no secondary source is not encyclopedic. --bonadea contributions talk 14:47, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Agree. "In the media" should not be used as a bypass to list non-notable awards/recognitions. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:17, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@Bonadea: Okay. I understand that all accolades are mentioned on the accolades section of all the Hindi-film personalities. For example, you may go ahead and check out Vicky Kaushal. However, you will still find Filmfare Glamour And Style Awards, GQ Awards mentioned there. Are those notable, or are they not? Okay, let's come to a conclusion. To make things clearer, creating a List of awards and nominations received by Sidharth Malhotra page should solve all the problems. We can list all the awards and nominations received by the figure there. SaUp2014 (talk) 15:23, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: Yes, Kaushal's page had a few non-notable mentions, which have been removed. But why do you want to create a separate page for Malhotra's list of awards? I mean, it isn't such a big section that a separate page be created, and even if a separate page for List of awards and nominations received by XYZ page is created, in spite of that too only notable awards can and should be mentioned, read WP:FILMACCOLADES. ManaliJain (talk) 17:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

SaUp2014 Aha! I was following an edit filter, and the huge amount of reverts and undo(s), triggered me to inspect what is going on here. First of all, I will ask you to stop edit warring. When an editor in 'good standing' reverts your edits, you are advised to bring up the matter to the article talk page. Continuing to edit war can result you being blocked. Please be familiar with three revert rule as well.

Now regarding the awards. Your links to the awards are actually to the article of the company who conveys them. Moreover, the articles that you are linking to also doesn't have a mention of the award. For example, Filmfare Awards doesn't have any mention of "Filmfare Glamour And Style Awards". To call the awards 'notable' they must have a separate Wikipedia article. And the sources must be reliable. Please be aware of WP:ICTFSOURCES. Websites stated as 'unreliable' should no be added in the article. All the sources that you used are paid editorials and are self published. From the website background, and the number of Google Ads, it can be well understood that the website are for promotional purposes, and the news there are thus highly unreliable. And 'it is there in the other article, then why not here' type of arguments are supposed to be kept off the track. This is your last warning. If you add the non-notable awards back again supporting those with a bunch of unreliable sources, then I will revert that, and will straight away report you to WP:AN3.

Also just to note, your editing seems like you have a conflict of interest of the subject. If that is true, then you are requested to disclose that as soon as possible, best before making another edit. And you were pointing Manali to the Wikipedia guidelines, right? I would first request you to be aware of the basic guidelines, and the guidelines of the topics that you edit. None of the editors involved in this discussion have said or done anything wrong. And if you want to create an article on the awards received by the subject then note, that if the awards aren't supported by reliable sources, then the article is likely to end up in AFD. Itcouldbepossible ^Talk 06:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain: Guess what, check the page again. @Meryam90 has clearly mentioned that till a consensus is reached regarding the addition or removal of these awards on the talk page of the Malhotra article, please refrain from making such removals. What is going to happen now is that, till a consensus is reached here, you cannot remove the awards on this page as well, which you did remove earlier. Please refrain from making such removals. SaUp2014 (talk) 04:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: Yeah well, good for you right, coz you'll keep adding/restoring all the non-notable and non-reliable mentions till then. Anyway, keep going, because after reaching the final consensus, the non-notable awards and recognitions are gonna be removed anyhow. ManaliJain (talk) 05:25, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain, firstly, Filmfare Glamour And Style Awards, Vogue Beauty Awards, Hindustan Times Most Stylish Awards, and GQ Awards are India's high rated, top fashion/beauty awards which are given out each year, so I don't know what makes you think these are not notable. Secondly, please revert all your recent edits on all other pages where you've removed after this discussion. Please refrain from making such removals, until a consensus is reached. SaUp2014 (talk) 05:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Frankly, none of those non-notable sundry awards are even worth discussing, and ManaliJain was right in their part to remove them. I'd say even custom made categories of notable awards should be excluded. Journalist Shekhar Gupta openly talked about how they where forced to invent a new category to award Katrina Kaif. If this is the situation of Screen Awards, then what worth do these run-of-the-mill awards have?

@SaUp2014: If you believe any of these awards are notable, then please go ahead and create an article for them. -- Ab207 (talk) 05:41, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207, these are completely different awards and doesn't certainly involves film awards. As I said, the mentioned awards are India's top fashion/beauty awards which are given out each year and are an important part of the Indian cinema industry. Yes, pages will be created as soon as possible, no doubt about that. SaUp2014 (talk) 05:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014 I asked you not to add the awards back again. The awards aren't notable. And the sources aren't notable too. You are keeping on adding bunches of useless sources back. Is this intentional? Itcouldbepossible ^Talk 06:07, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I think what you're doing is intentional isn't it? @Itcouldbepossible, you haven't reached out to me, so stop that false imposing nature of yours. Also, Pinkvilla.com, Koimoi, Bollywood Hungama are reliable sources. And, these awards are going to be notable as soon as I create pages with sources. I repeat again, these awards are of high importance, and shoudl not be removed until a consensus is reached. if you find a source unreliable, mark it as citation needed, refrain from removal. SaUp2014 (talk) 06:24, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014 I don't understand what you mean by 'you haven't reached out to me'. What should I reach out for? And saying this is reliable and this is not, will not make a difference. Koimoi is already unreliable per WP:ICTFSOURCES. Morover, calling a source reliable, doesn't make it reliable. Things have been decided far before you even started editing.

And, these awards are going to be notable as soon as I create pages with sources. Laughably, this statement, well explains how less you know about Wikipedia and its guidelines. Something as far as I know, something doesn't get notable when you create a page!! Then there would have been twice as many pages in Wikipedia than is now. Most pages get declined at AfC because of notability problems, and you are saying you can achieve notability so easily. I am afraid, then there would not have been so huge a guidelines as WP:N, and editors wouldn't be worried about there creations meeting notability or not. Just for your information, notability is one of the most important guidelines here, and is abided by each and everyone who edits this collaborative project. Notability is such a critically advanced theory, that editors take many years to grasp them. It is funny that, all those who work continuously to eliminate articles that are not notable, are doing actually zero work, according to you, since notability is achieved, as soon as an article is created with sources, and instead of all the hard-worked out Notability theory by so many editors over the years, the page would have content somewhat like this:

Notability is achieved when a page is created using some sources. There is nothing to worry about. Creating an article with a bunch of unreliable sources will make your article notable.

I think you need to know the notability guidelines well, as you seem to lack a clear understanding of the guidelines. Also, you were pointing the Wikipedia guidelines to Manali. But it looks like you yourself need to be aware of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

You repeating the same thing over and over again won't change the way I or other think. And you are talking of consensus right? Consensus is towards removing the whole of the non - notable award, and not adding it back until the awards can show itself as 'notable' and when reliable sources state that Siddharth has got them. Is there a consensus in the way you are editing? So, from all the above discussion, we can easily determine what the consensus actually is. And by the way, where did Meryam90 state till a consensus is reached regarding the addition or removal of these awards on the talk page of the Malhotra article, please refrain from making such removals.?

PS: And, these awards are going to be notable as soon as I create pages with sources. Ok, first lets see how you can get those non - notable awards on Wikipedia as articles, then we can think of notability.

Itcouldbepossible ^Talk 07:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Itcouldbepossible!

I, and some other editors have been trying to explain the basic notability criteria to SaUp2014 but I don't know what's up with him/her, and why they just don't want to understand it simply. ManaliJain (talk) 07:56, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible, firstly, you said I asked you not to add the awards back again. No, you never have, I'm seeing you for the first time anywhere on Wikipedia. Yes, just saw that Koimoi isn't listed in reliable sources, hence citation needed is added to the respective location. Laughably, you seem to be too condescending here. You do not realise the fact that reliable sources are only being added/trying to get them added. And by the way, where did Meryam90 state till a consensus is reached regarding the addition or removal of these awards on the talk page of the Malhotra article, please refrain from making such removals.? I don't think you've read the whole discussion here have you. Go ahead and check the Vicky Kaushal article history.

Now, the main thing, notability. Awards having no articles on Wikipedia were present in almost all other actors' pages, that's why I raised the point. Since Manali had removed 4 similar awards on the Vicky Kaushal page, awards were removed from Sidharth's page as well. However, after that edit was undone, I raised that point that, hey, look that's what I'm talking about. Then I mentioned it here. Then, there was a condescending closure from Manali, to which I replied, please do not remove those awards from all the respective pages. I know for a fact that awards which do not have articles can't be added to the list, however, the organisation conferring are available on Wikipedia and are being referenced as awards. There can be only one consensus, that either all these awards with no articles have to be removed completely from all the pages of all actors, or keep them there until pages are created. Don't say that oh, these can't be created, of course they can be, these are official awards, what are you talking about. SaUp2014 (talk) 08:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: please remember to comment on content and not on other editors. just saw that Koimoi isn't listed in reliable sources, hence citation needed is added to the respective location. well, no, when you have information that is contested and you realise that the source is not reliable, it's not a good idea to restore it with a citation needed tag. --bonadea contributions talk 13:02, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: Which part of "[do] not restore the content unless you get a consensus in favour of inclusion" is difficult to grasp? No other editor in this discussion has agreed with you that non-notable awards/accolades should be included, so you clearly do not have a consensus in favour of their inclusion. --bonadea contributions talk 15:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm assuming this means that all these awards with no articles have to be removed completely from all the pages of all actors. Okay. Consensus reached. I'm going to remove all such awards from all pages now. Shouldn't be a problem. As I mentioned, if it's for all, it's fine, if it's for only this page, then no, I'll raise a question because as per consensus, a decision takes into account all of the proper concerns raised. That was my concern, why is only with this page, why not with all others? Now that we've reached a closure that they should be removed from all the pages, let's do it. SaUp2014 (talk) 15:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@Bonadea: As per the consensus reached here, for example, I should be eligible to remove everything below GQ section on the List of awards and nominations received by Deepika Padukone article, right? Okay. SaUp2014 (talk) 15:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

The media point I raised earlier, was from this page only. See how these awards are mentioned as media awards on the List of awards and nominations received by Deepika Padukone article? Exactly, that's what I was talking about. But, since consensus is reached, these have to be removed. That's fine. SaUp2014 (talk) 15:56, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: Who said that a consensus has been reached? And who has said that any consensus reached on this article talk page automatically applies elsewhere? I would certainly argue that non-notable awards should generally not be included in biographies, and I believe that is in line with Wikipedia content guidelines, but of course there can be exceptions and I have not read or evaluated the other articles you mention. The discussion on an individual article talk page refers to that article. --bonadea contributions talk 16:00, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@Bonadea: @Meryam90 reverted an edit from @ManaliJain on the Vicky Kaushal page as she removed similar awards from that page, only because she was waiting for a consensus here. Also, Manali has already removed similar awards from some other pages as well. This consensus here was and is about all Hindi-film personalities' articles. But of course there can be exceptions, well, this is new. I wonder why did it come up now? I think now we're getting somewhere near what I'd been talking about. So, tell me, why should I not remove these awards from suppose Deepika Padukone's page, and why should I remove them from Sidharth page? SaUp2014 (talk) 16:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: There is "no consensus in favour of including non-notable awards". And there's nothing new here, read WP:FILMACCOLADES. ManaliJain (talk) 16:12, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Let's go ahead and remove all non-notable awards. Consensus reached. SaUp2014 (talk) 16:13, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Consensus reached?! I mean what are you misunderstanding, please read what Bonadea said again. ManaliJain (talk) 16:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain: What does "no consensus in favour of including non-notable awards" mean? It means that not-notable awards should not be included in the awards and nominations section. Consensus reached in favour of not including non-notable awards. SaUp2014 (talk) 16:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: Okay, look, there's a difference between "consensus reached" and "no consensus". Here, in this case, there is no consensus in favour of including non-notable awards. I hope this is clear to you now. ManaliJain (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain, this discussion is not going to end until we find the consensus. I want the answer to the question that why should I not remove these awards from suppose Deepika Padukone's or any other's page, and why should I remove them from Sidharth page? I know you have done your part by removing some of it already from the Deepika Padukone's awards article, however still a lot is there.

I raised the point to include these awards in the awards and nominations section because similar awards have been mentioned on let's suppose Vicky Kaushal or Ranveer Singh's articles, but nobody agreed for Sidharth's page. I also raised the point of including the non-notables to the media section because similar awards have been mentioned in let's suppose the media titles section, but again nobody agreed for Sidharth's page.

Adding these awards is a tougher task than removing them. You decide. As per the discussion here, it seems like removal is the only option. SaUp2014 (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@SaUp2014: See, I've been removing non-notable awards staying under WP:FILMACCOLADES since a long time now. And we can't always question what about article x on some other subject's talk page because you have to keep this in mind that other content exists on Wikipedia. A discussion on an individual subject's talk page refers to that article. Here, in this matter, this discussion took place on whether non-notable awards are to be included, and clearly there isn't any agreement to include these non-notable mentions. Hence, non-notable awards/recognitions/mentions shouldn't be included. ManaliJain (talk) 16:53, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@ManaliJain: Agreed. But, we're pointing towards the same thing. We should be removing non-notable awards staying under WP:FILMACCOLADES. We all are agreeing to the fact that non-notable awards should be removed. That's a consensus.

As per WP:CONACHIEVE, a consensus decision takes into account all of the proper concerns raised. Ideally, it arrives with an absence of objections, but often we must settle for as wide an agreement as can be reached.

I've raised my concerns, now there are no objections. Non-notable awards/recognitions/mentions shouldn't be included. SaUp2014 (talk) 17:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

• I received a random bot invitation to review this RFC. It looks like the editors above have reached agreement, but I'll respond to firm up the result. The guidance MOS:FILMACCOLADES is that, in general, such awards should only be included when they have have established WP:Notability under Wikipedia guidelines and an article. Non-notable awards should be removed here. Regarding other articles, they should also comply with Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines and Style manuals. However that needs to be independently addressed on those pages. In some cases there could be consensus to make an exception to include additional specific awards on specific articles, in unusual circumstances. I see no exceptional circumstances here.
  If there is no longer any disagreement, a formal RFC-closure probably isn't needed. Alsee (talk) 09:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

tourism brand ambassador of New Zealand

not sure why this huge achievement was missed in Wikipedia and why we can not edit it ??

He is a brand ambassador for New Zealand! 118.92.209.111 (talk) 05:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Marriage year

His marriage year is 2023 and it’s mentioned 2017 Ilyas139 (talk) 18:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024

Siddharth Malhotra is the nephew of famous fashion designer Manish Malhotra. 2409:4060:2EC0:CD6C:0:0:180B:F113 (talk) 10:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 15:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)