Talk:Santiago Nsobeya

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On 13 July 2020, it was proposed that this article be moved from Santiago Nchama to Santiago Nsobeya. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 13 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:25, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Santiago Nchama → Santiago Nsobeya – Sources in comment.--MonFrontieres (talk) 14:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:05, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: [1] [2]. Note: His fullname was Santiago Nsobeya Efuman Nchama. As a Fang from Equatorial Guinea, his ethnic names followed the next patronymic (with Spanish influence but not the same as the Spanish naming customs): Nsobeya was the name his parents gave to him, Efuman was the name his paternal grandparents gave to his father and Nchama was the name his maternal grandparents gave to his mother.--MonFrontieres (talk) 14:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. — AjaxSmack 02:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Santiago Nsobeya Efuman Nchama – Santiago Nsobeya is akin to first and middle name which is inappropriate for a Wikipedia title. The current title (Santiago Nchama) is his first name followed by his matronymic per MonFrontieres's explanation of naming customs. We should use his full name to avoid all these issues and per this source. We can redirect all the other alternatives.--- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Coffeeandcrumbs:. Nsobeya is NOT a middle name. See, Santiago's children have "Nsobeya" instead of "Efuman" in third place.--MonFrontieres (talk) 15:50, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  MonFrontieres, are you saying that his parents gave him both a first and surname? --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 15:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Coffeeandcrumbs:. Yes, but it is not just this person and his family. This happens even in the Obiang's family. Let see the case of "Teodorín": His fullname is Teodoro Nguema Obiang Mangue, his father is Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo and his mother is Constancia Mangue Nsue Okomo. As you can see, Teodorín and Teodoro don't have the same name in the third place. Teodorín has there the name Teodoro has in second (Obiang), and also Teodorín has in fourth place the name Constancia has in her second (Mangue). And that "Nguema" Teodorín has in second place is not the same Teodoro has. It is a "new" Nguema name (given by Teodoro and Constancia). The other was from Teodorín's paternal grandfather (Teodoro's father).--MonFrontieres (talk) 16:28, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  MonFrontieres, I understand now. Then, would it not be better to find some consistency. I doubt we can determine COMMONNAME. Looking at Category:Equatoguinean people, it looks like using the full name is a common solution in titles of articles about Equatoguineans. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 16:41, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:40, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.