Talk:Santa Elena (Spanish Florida)

I meant to put this in the edit summary when I moved the page, but I did so because there was more to Santa Elena than merely being a mission. It was the name of the settlement that was originally supposed to be the capital of La Florida. San Agustin was to be merely a link to the heart of the Viceroyalty of New Spain. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 16:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

archaeology and SE's role in history

There's a long article in the media about how this site is the first permanent European settlement in North America (north of Mexico and the Caribbean) and is under-discussed: Beaufort man on crusade to draw attention to early European settlement in North America | Local and State News | postandcourier.com Kdammers (talk) 19:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

So how is it "the first sustained European settlement in North America" when St. Augustine, Florida has been continuously occupied since 1565? Carlstak (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

There is also the question of what "permanent" means. Santa Elena was founded in 1566, abandoned in 1576, re-established the next year, and then abandoned again in 1587.(Lyon, Eugene (1988). "Pedro Menéndez's Strategic Plan for the Florida Peninsula". The Florida Historical Quarterly. 67 (1): 1–14. ISSN 0015-4113. JSTOR 30147920.) The article definitely can be improved, but we need to avoid overblown claims. - Donald Albury 21:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC) Edited 22:01, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Don't you mean 1566, 1576, and 1587? Carlstak (talk) 21:55, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Duh! Fixed. Thank you! And I was looking at the source I cited. - Donald Albury 22:01, 7 August 2022 (UTC)