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Hairspray

This movie could be considered a sequel in the broader sense. It brings back John Travolta and Michelle Pfieffer and is named for a styling product. 17:14, 19 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShalimarWildcat (talk • contribs)

Hairspray has intentional callbacks to Grease throughout, but the original stage production had neither Pfeiffer nor Travolta, the film chose to include them because of their capabilities, and I wouldn't suggest they're callbacks. Additionally, Pfeiffer wasn't in Grease, just Grease 2. --118.209.191.2 (talk) 00:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As we do not have reliable sources for any of this, there is nothing to discuss. - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:39, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Facts about where the movie was filmed

The movie was also filmed at Huntington Park Senior High School. I happen to have attended HP High School and my mother also attended when the movie was being made. The scene on the bleachers, in the cafeteria, and during the pep rally bon fire was filmed at Huntington Park High School. And I believe it was "mostly" filmed at HPHS, not Excelsior or Venice. 69.108.117.220 (talk) 07:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Trisha Medina-Huntington Park,CA[reply]

The writing

What happened to the last paragraph of the plot synopsis? It reads like it was written by a bored ten-year-old! 90.197.127.143 08:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zuko?

Isn't Travolta's character supposed to be of Italian descent? I realize IMDb also has "Zuko", but the letter k does not exist in Italian, so I would expect the spelling to be "Zucco" or perhaps "Zuccho". --Nelson Ricardo 07:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps that means that the screenplay (or musical) author wasn't proficient in Italian and just spelled it phonetically. Or perhaps his fictional immigrant ancestors "Americanicized" their name when they immigrated. Whatever the reason, if it's on the IMDb, it probably came from the ending credits, so it should stand. — Frecklefoot | Talk 13:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now, you may claim the letter 'k' does not exist in the italian language, but the # 1 selling household product in Italy is the Moka Express coffee maker. Spelled exactly like that. Now, let's not start the debate on Espresso and Expresso — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.115.130.38 (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

VHS release

What year was Grease first released on VHS in the 1980s? 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, OR 1987? --PJ Pete

or 1988 and 1989. or maybe it was 1990, if not 1991 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Year

Well, this film takes place in the late '50s. Danny met Sandy at the beach for the first time, but the graduation carnival was in 1959, and there would usually be a graduation party in May. So Danny had actually encountered Sandy at the beach in 1958. But it never took place in the '60s such as they graduated a year before 1960. --PJ Pete

Are you sure? It's been a while, but I remember Danny's class being the class of '61 or '62 in the film. Mcflytrap 16:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely, they met in 1958, so the movie take place between 1958 and 1959. See the Imbd page for details. I fixed it in the main page too. - Luckyboy1965 (talk) 01:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, the principal refers to "Vice President Nixon" rather than "Johnson".Vonbontee (talk) 06:52, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Poster

The poster is now available on Wikipedia, and is in the infobox. I moved the DVD cover somewhere else in this article. Another image is the re-release poster under the headline, Theatrical Release History. --PJ Pete

DVD covers

The 2002 DVD cover is the old cover, and the 2006 DVD cover, the Rockin' Rydell Edition is now the #1 best-selling DVD cover of all the DVD releases of Grease. --PJ Pete

Can you please refrain from adding information that is not citable? On many articles, you've gotten a little, well, exuberant about DVD covers, and this is one example. There is no such thing as a #1 best-selling DVD cover. I've removed the reference to the #1 cover, etc., etc., etc. It doesn't make any sense. PacificBoy 22:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat of a fantasy

Now what does that mean, "somewhat of a fantasy"? --PJ Pete

Probably that it includes elements that can't happen in reality. That is, the car flying off into the sky. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, this movie is a total fantasy. --PJ Pete

Also the sudden changing of clothes and setting in the "Greased Lightning" scene and the fantastical "Beauty School Dropout" sequence (albeit, it's assumed that that's a dream but still...)--Tuzapicabit (talk) 02:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If things "that can't happen in reality" make this film a fantasy, virtually every film is a fantasy. Gravity has them taking the Space Shuttle to a satellite that wasn't up until the shuttles had been retired and, contrary to laws of inertia, accelerate from one orbit to a lower orbit.

Yes, a flying car is a fantasy element. If that were a defining element of the film (as in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang), that might be relevant. Heck, high school students who look like Travolta and Newton-John can't happen either. That said, these pieces are trivial. To figure out the genre of a film there are two ways to go. The first is to ask: How in-depth of a summary of the film do you have to go before you mention it? If I explain this film's plot to someone who hasn't seen it, fast costume changes and the flying car aren't part of it. This film includes, but is not about lots of things: cars, carnival games, diners, etc.

The second method is much better: What do reliable sources say it is. Do they say it's a fantasy film about cars or a 1950s musical about high schoolers? - SummerPhD^v2.0 12:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Donna Mills

“

In November of 2002 Donna Mills revealed to Camille Paglia in an interview that the character of Sandy in Grease was based on her experiences as a Chicago-area teen.

”

Is there any corroboration for Mills remarks? If not, I think this better belongs in the Trivia section rather than the opener, of all places. It looks like we're heavily pushing the assertion of one person. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 05:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about Rizzo's pregnancy scare?

Strange to leave that out from such a detailed plot synopsis. I'd add it myself but I don't own the film so I wouldn't get the details right. Gilmer 02:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously?

Is this really true?

"The Emmy award-winning Disney Channel Original Movie, High School Musical is now considered the modern day Grease."

Because the only people I know who actually like HSM are about 9, where as almost everyone I know likes Grease. So how can something only 9 year olds like be the modern equivalent of Grease?

Hope that make sense

The Red Risky 10:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has been considered the modern-day Grease, though Red Risky, I happen to know that more than 9 year olds like High School Musical. It has a much broader audience than that. It is also rumoured that there may be a third HSM, if there is it will hit the theaters. :) Unintended Disaster —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 04:01, August 25, 2007 (UTC).

I deleted the statement, "The Emmy award-winning Disney Channel Original Movie, High School Musical is now considered the modern day Grease" before I read this discussion. "The modern day Grease" has no objective meaning, and if someone insists on the comparison, it would be pertinent to indicate just who it is that considers HSM "the modern day Grease" -- for instance, in a footnoted reference to a professional review. Personally, I can't imagine anyone over 13 enjoying HSM, but I wouldn't insert that opinion into the article about HSM. WilliamBarrett 17:16, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually William, I happen to know there are high schoolers, middle schoolers and of course parents who adore the film. Honestly, I think it has a good message for young kids and teens alike. I much rather watch Grease though...:) Unintended Disaster 01:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

actually HSM's tentative title was Grease 3...... i'm surprised any high schooler would actually enjoy it.

Plot

The plot summary is WAY too long. 203.109.176.147 12:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Lena247[reply]

and of mediocre quality. "preppy school spirit girl"? it reads as though it was written by a high-schooler. "the other T-birds go for a slice of pizza"? why does this even matter? and why is "pizza" linked to the pizza article? needs major editing.

True, but when a person dares to edit, they get undone. I have no dog in this fight, but really -- who camps on their bad writing and rejects assistance? Get a blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.208.74 (talk) 01:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is this supposed to mean?

"Danny attempts to go to the Frosty Palace with Sandy by themselves so that they can be alone and not worry about ruining his image in front of his friends. They end up discovering Danny and Sandy are there anyway and Danny finds it hard to charm Sandy without looking like a sissy in front of his friends." That doesn't make any sense, do they have dissociative identity disorder or something? :) But seriously, what is that supposed to say? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnaSidney (talk • contribs) 19:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC) It makes perfect sense to me. Why are you having difficulty following it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.234.133 (talk) 17:16, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism

hey this site is plagerizing your site http://www.enttwist.com/grease-film/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.71.70 (talk) 19:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a Wiki and its articles are free to use elsewhere as long as they are credited to Wikipedia. Thanks. --Rodhull andemu 20:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Differences from stage version?

I propose there should be a "Differences from stage version" section, as like with novels adapted to film there are some notable changes that are of interest. I am not knowledgeable enough about the stage version to do this myself, so hope someone out there will read this and do it. 67.191.162.105 (talk) 03:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Song order?

The numbers in square brackets representing the song order in the movie don't make sense, because 08, 15 and 17 occur twice each.

I also don't think it's true that any of the songs are missing from the movie, although some of them only occur incidentally and maybe incompletely on juke boxes.

Can anyone check these things? Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the movie to give a definite answer. Stephen Turner (Talk) 19:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The duplicate numbers in square brackets appear to have been fixed, but see #Soundtrack - songs not in movie? below. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just given the film a thorough going through and, unless I'm completely deaf, I'm certain that "Freddy My Love", "Mooning" and "Alone At The Drive-in Movie" don't actually appear in the film at all in any form (even though the first two are mentioned in the end credits). Also, to add to the other songs in the film list, the instrumental "Greased Up And Ready To Go" from the deluxe CD version of the soundtrack, does appear in the Frosty Palace scene after "Whole Lotta Shaking Goin' On". I'm not going to edit the page with this stuff though because I figure someone else would want to verify it first. Bushwacka666 (talk) 21:21, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the song order to reflect the order in the film, not the soundtrack album, as that has a separate article. Also songs are listed by character rather than real-life singer (again those are in the soundtrack article). Not sure where to place the unreleased songs though.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 02:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blu-ray / Category question

As noted in the article, the film is now available with hi-def surround audio on BD. So the question is, should this page be tagged with [[Category:Music released on Blu-ray]] ? It is simply a film, not an album, but on the other hand, it's the best way of listening to the music. The same applies to The Sound of Music and others. Comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.130.221 (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Soundtrack - songs not in movie?

The Soundtrack section says:

The number in brackets below indicates the order from the movie. Some of the songs were not present in the movie.

but then every song listed has a number in brackets (ie its order in the movie). If some songs were not in the movie, then those songs should not have a number in square brackets. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1977 <--> 1978

Copyright is established by first publication- and in this case it may have been a preview version shown to gauge audience reaction, prior to final editing and first theatrical release. We use that date for films here, so there may be a difference of some months. Rodhull andemu 22:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The film's opening says "COPYRIGHT © MCMLXXVIII BY PARAMOUNT PICTURES CORPORATION", which clearly means 1978. Here's a picture of it: http://www.annyas.com/screenshots/images/1978/grease-title-screenshot.jpg The DVD guys got it wrong. --Mégara (Мегъра) - D. G. Mavrov (talk) 22:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plot shortening

Finally the huge, overly detailed plot section has been shortened by Evilgidgit. The plot section now contains 427 words, following the filmplot summary guideline that recommends a length between 400 - 700 words. All the other contributors, thanks for your work, but please add to the summary only if you really deem it necessary and if the addition is in accordance with WP:FILMPLOT: otherwise it'll probably be taken out. Thanks, Pim Rijkee (talk) 19:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to try to add a little more detail without returning to the blow-by-blow account that was here before; while we don't need to know absolutely everything that goes on in the film, this almost seems too brief in places.TheBigFish (talk) 04:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R-rating?

I have a bet with a friend. Was Grease r-rated when it came out in the 70's? I say yes he says no.Could you please help me with that? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.184.91 (talk) 19:30, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, you lose! :) I saw it when I was 10, and wouldn't have been allowed to, if it were Restricted. Rated PG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vonbontee (talk • contribs) 07:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dinah Manoff and her work with Paramount Pictures

Dinah Manoff, daughter of actress Lee Grant made her theatrical debut in 1978's Grease by Paramount Pictures. Manoff would appear in two more more movies for Paramount between 1978 and 1990. The first is Ordinary People in 1980 and Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael in 1990. She has not done much since. —Preceding unsigned comment added by E2e3v6 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

I think that this article would not be complete without putting a few pictures in the article please. Grease is popular enough to show a few images, Right? Please. --E2e3v6 (talk) 21:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC) i love grease!!!!!! woodfall primary school are doing a play about it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.225.172 (talk) 12:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Filming locations?

I started a new section for filming locations that you can help me on. The Info can be found at the following address: http://www.seeing-stars.com/locations/grease.shtml. I'm just trying to help. May the force be with you. --E2e3v6 (talk) 12:39, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

E2e3v6's idea of a director's cut version of Grease

I have been thinking and I hope Randal Kleiser is listening to me. I think it would be an awesome idea to release a director's cut of the movie Grease; that means a few extra minutes of the deleted footage that can be found on the Rockin Rydell DVD added or replaced to the original film, colorized and restored and most importantly, put the old Paramount Pictures logo back in with the Gulf + Western Byline. And not just those scenes mentioned above, but the scenes of Kenickie and Rizzo's argument and the fight scene as well if they can be found. Just a suggestion... --E2e3v6 (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Critical section

I haven't time right now to go through the reviews, but there was a common critism aimed at the film that the stars were clearly too old to be High School students. Stockard Channing was 33 at the time of filming, Michael Tucci was 31 and even Olivia Newton John was 28/29. I think some mention should be made of this.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 11:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Plot section grammar

I edited some grammar errors, mostly in the plot section. The previous writing contained many run-on sentences.

underwear

Yes, the MOST EXCITING THING EVR!!!!!!!! happens in this film: we got to see underwear!!!!!!!!! OMGITSWHATTHEWHOLEMOVIEISABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, Greaseexpert/86.147.242.57/86.130.28.154/86.160.66.67/Johnlewisskirt, this is not Underwearpedia. To the general reader, this is trivia. Unless independent reliable sources substantially discuss this minor detail (which they don't), it does not belong in this article. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:04, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's something that happens in the film. That is all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greaseexpert (talk • contribs) 18:12, February 4, 2015‎

Yes, it is something trivial that happens to a minor character in the film. As explained at WP:PLOT, "merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." As detailed under WP:FILMPLOT, "The plot summary is an overview of the film's main events, so avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, individual jokes, and technical detail." This is not a main event. It is minutiae. 4 editors disagree with you (via previous reverts to your edits under various user names and IPs. Do not restore the information without first forming a consensus to do so here. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:02, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

lots ofunderwear!!!!!!!!!

You're right. It's a shame, I just thought it was one of the better parts of a bad movie. You won't hear from me again.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Greaseexpert (talk • contribs) 08:47, February 5, 2015‎

You should try a Sears catalog or, oh, maybe Google. It's like EVERYONE is wearing underwear. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:15, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone is wearing underpants anyway, I'm just interested when it's embarrassingly exposed is all. Patty Simcox is the best example of that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greaseexpert (talk • contribs) 23:38, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is trivia and has now been reverted by 5 editors. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:53, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The user (under various accounts and IPs) has been indefinitely blocked. Any accounts/IPs arriving with this obvious obsession should be reported at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Johnlewisskirt. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC) Wow, seriously can't take a hint. - SummerPhD^v2.0 05:57, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grease 3 - 2002 sequel initiative with Travolta & Newto-John

There was a serious initiative to make Grease 3 with director Kleiser and a cast with Kylie Minogue, John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. There was media coverage for this project in 2002. Is it ok to mention this in the article? 194.109.22.153 (talk) 22:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If and only if you have a reliable source for it. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:11, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zucco? Zucko? Zuko?

Lots of editors have been "correcting" this to Zuko. I had been reverting them as there was never an explanation (rarely an edit summary), mostly IPs, etc. as TCM said Zucco. Checking all of the sources currently cited in the article, here's what we have (note that many of the sources do not give any last name):

Zucco - Turner Classic Movies
Zucko - IMDb
Zuko - news.com.au, IMDb, RT, Ocala StarBanner, New York Post

Given my past involvement, I'll let this go for a few days. If there is no other input, I'll handle it similarly to the Olson/Olsson situation. - SummerPhD (talk) 17:07, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notes regarding IMDB

"IMDb titles the character's page thus, but also remarks "Alternate Names: Sandy / Sandy Olsen"."

IMDBs character page is pretty much blank now, , so I say it should be "Olsen," without further comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.41.133 (talk) 07:54, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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highest grossing film of 1978

this movies the highest grossing film of 1978 but the article never mentions it, it just says that the soundtrack was the second? higest grossing album and that it was the highest grossing MUSICAL live action. I find weird that there is no explicit mention of it being the highest grossing film of that year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.147.192.4 (talk) 23:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sandy's surname

The official script names her as Sandy Dumbrowski in two places. The surname from the Wikipedia article (Olsson) does not appear in the script. I edited and mentioned "talk" in the edit summary.

https://englishmagazinesite.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/script_grease1.pdf 78.82.80.49 (talk) 17:55, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question. Did you watch the movie? When Frenchy introduces Sandy to the Pink Ladies, she says, "this here is Sandy Olsson." (Thanks Youtube for allowing me to check.). You have the play script and not the film's. The reason for the name change, as cited throughout the internet, is to accommodate Olivia Newton-John getting cast for the role. $chnauzer 18:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Starring credits

According to Template:Infobox_film, starring is used for "the top-billed actors". That's why I don't believe that "guest appearances" actors should be listed there. I know there are still of lot of actors not listed on the poster but ... Sha na na, really? Is there a place on Wikipedia that states that all actors listed on a poster should be in the "Starring" field? -- 19:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC) Lyverbe (talk) 19:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well? If I see no objection, I will remove guest appearances -- Lyverbe (talk) 12:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reception (attn Llogan79425)

Unfortunately, Llogan79425 is using a temporary account to make his edits so he can't be reached on his talk page. The message is about the edits just for Rotten Tomato rating. These values (percentage and review count) change daily but, please, do not update the article on a daily basis just for that because it won't ever end. I've always hated these numbers in Wikipedia because they are never accurate since they always change. -- Lyverbe (talk) 12:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]