Talk:San Francisco crime family

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This article is a WP:Close paraphrasing of http://www.americanmafia.com/Cities/San_Francisco.html. About 75% of the sentences have direct parallels in that source, are all in the same order, and the information is just being tweaked slightly. As just one example, note:

source: "While boss he attended the raided mob summit known, as Apalachin in November 1957" (note grammatical error)
article: "While boss he attended the raided mob summit known, as Apalachin in November 1957"

Close paraphrasing is not a defense against copyright violation, and this has been explained to the author of the article previously. They refused to discuss this. A similar previous version was deleted by Orangemike a week or two ago as a copyright infringement. It appears the author tweaked that version a little more and reposted it. Could someone besides me have a word with them? --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for noting concerns with this. I concur, and I will speak with the contributor. Meanwhile, I have created a new version of the article that we can use. I'm not at all sure what notability standards exist on Wikipedia for crime families and am skeptical about the reliability of this source. My creation of this article is merely because the former was not usable, and if it is determined that it doesn't meet inclusion guidelines I have no objection whatsoever to its being nominated for deletion via PROD or CSD. I am inclined to think that the article should be moved, if it is left, to match the name given by the sole source. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]