Talk:Rumack–Matthew nomogram
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[edit]To the user who changed the name from Rumack-Matthews to Rumack-Matthew:
Yes occasionally (or more often depending on where you come from) some sources utilize the term Matthew but the most common and proper usage is Matthews in my view. To the user who left a comment in the text saying "it is Matthew not Matthews as per sources"... I just added these sources and in Tarascon on page 167 it is clearly Rumack-Matthews and in the pubmed article cited it is also Rumack-Matthews. Also here is a few books on Google books for your concerns if any:
Anyhow I feel it has to stay Rumack-Matthews because the primary sources utilized use this phrasing. Nevertheless it is a minor issue and so I will add to the lead the other version of the name. To your credit there are a lot of Google books that use Rumack-Matthew only but among those the most reputable (in my view) sources use Rumack-Matthews. Please discuss if you disagree we will just go with what majority feels. I do not care either way but I still believe it should stay Rumack-Matthews. Thank you ! Dr. Persi (talk) 04:49, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The ORIGINAL PRIMARY source is the article published in 1975 and NOT the incorrect spelling of his name listed in articles published later. The man's name was Matthew not Matthews. Just because the articles you quote put in the wrong name doesn't mean that the name Matthews is correct. Look at the following two references to see how his name is spelled: (1)Hordern, A. Remembering Henry Matthew. J.R.Coll.Physicians Edinb. 40[3], 286. 2010. (2)Proudfoot, A. T. and Prescott, L. F. Henry Matthew: the father of modern clinical toxicology. J.R.Coll.Physicians Edinb. 39[4], 357-361. 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.143.158 (talk) 13:37, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The original and primary source of the name "Rumack Matthew Nomogram" is taken from the first publication of the nomogram in 1975. The correct reference is to that original article which is referenced as number 3. Some authors have incorrectly added an S to Matthew. Perpetuation of this mistake dishonors the memory of Henry Matthew MD and should be corrected. The person who signed his/her name as Persi is using references that are NOT primary sources and are incorrect. Look at the original article before accepting any articles that have an incorrect reference and look at the 2 articles quoted above in the unsigned talk that memorializes the contributions of Henry Matthew MD. Do the right thing and change the title of this entry and refer to it correctly with his proper name. Look at the 75 or more articles published by Rumack and see what the proper reference is. Look at the book Medical Toxicology by Dart Third Edition and see what the proper reference is. Look in Poisindex and see what the correct reference should be. Stop referring to articles that have been written by people who have not checked their facts. Merlin Cyrstal (talk) 15:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- By the way just because you quote an original articles does not mean you get to judge some of the best books out there in publication. Tarascon for instance is a great referrence that I am not sure a college professor would supposedly understand to use, but is something that is used commonly by MDs. As for the naming, the article is written by Matthew and Rumack but I could not find a direct referrence to exactly "Rumack Matthew nomogram." Regardless this is a pointless argument. I use this in clinical practice on a daily basis and I will continue to cite and use Rumack Matthews but that is entirely an insignificant point. Also I am not the person who signed his/her name as Persi. You can refer to me as Persi, thank you person who is using the name Merlin Crystal! Name changed, and hopefully humility would go a long way...Dr. Persi (talk) 22:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)