Talk:Rita Shane

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Date of birth

The article gave Shane's date of birth as on August 15, 1940. A posting on the BLP noticeboard (Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Rita Shane), from a person claiming to be her ex-husband, stated that the correct date was August 15, 1936: "how do i know? i was married to her for 47 years, starting in 1958 (she was not 17 years old at the time, nor did she graduate barnard college at the age of 17)" . Since no source was given for the original date, I've removed it. I'll see if I can find WP:RS for a this, and correct it, if possible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:20, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Further to this, I've not been able to confirm the 1936 date. Google finds multiple references to 1940, but most are clearly Wikipedia mirrors, and those that aren't may be referenced from the same source that her (claimed) ex-husband states is incorrect. Without engaging in original research, I can't see any way to resolve this issue, so I'll just ask anyone finding a source with Shane's DoB to note the problem, and not to add it without discussion here first unless it is conclusive. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The potential sources that I have been able to verify through googlebooks are all just commentaries about her performances, and mostly just listing her as appearing in a cast - nothing resembling any type of biographical information. Active Banana (^bananaphone 19:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, I'll just have to keep looking... AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you have access to International book of honor [1] it looks like it might be in there - but the previews are sometimes random in how they cobble the text together and the snippet view cuts it off. Active Banana (^bananaphone 19:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll maybe see if I can track this down. Thanks AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:18, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Rita Shane

<ref>Rita Shane</ref> The biography text lists the wrong birthdate. She was born in Bronx, New York on August 15, 1936 parents: Julius J. Shane and Rebekah Milner Shane. This can be verified by birth records of the City of New York. I am her ex-husband of 47 years, Daniel F. Tritter Your error probably came from the slovenly "research" of the late British musicologist, Stanley Sadie, who knew nothing about the subject. [unsigned, but the history at RFC/BOARD shows: 66.108.30.238 (talk)‎ . . (83,117 bytes) (+450)‎ . . (→‎Rita Shane: new section)]

Moved the above post from WP:RFC/BOARD. Coastside (talk) 14:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rms125a@hotmail.com / B. Johnson

There seem to have been several misunderstandings. User:Rms125a@hotmail.com attempted to avoid a red link for Beverly Peck Johnson by covering her name in an external link to her NYT obit. That's not how external links work and I removed it and made a considerable number of other improvements, all mentioned in my edit summary. Then Rms125a@hotmail.com sulked and reverted the article to a wholly inappropriate version, removing Shane's NYT obit which had been added, albeit with some formatting errors, by User:4meter4. 4meter4 then reverted to their earlier version, re-introducing the NYT citation formatting error, with the edit summary: "Michael; the nyt obit for Shane specifically mentions Beverly Johnson as her teacher; her name later became Beverly Peck Johnson after she taught Shane", apparently under the misapprehension that I had removed that source. Three more edits followed.

I'm particularly annoyed at Rms125a@hotmail.com's pointy reversal of a legitimate correction to their edit, resulting in the loss of about a dozen other improvements. This was then compounded by 4meter4's inability to see his own erroneous duplicate use of the parameter |title= in his {{cite news}} for the NYT.

I've now merged my & 4meter4's edit. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:48, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the misunderstanding. I must have been tired last night. Thanks for clearing things up Michael.4meter4 (talk) 03:36, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]