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Change "Reform Zionism, also known as Progressive Zionism, is the ideology of the Zionist arm of the Reform or Progressive branch of Judaism." to "Reform Zionism is the ideology of the Zionist arm of the Reform or Progressive branch of Judaism. Outside of North America, Reform Zionism is sometimes known as Progressive Zionism^[1] or Liberal or Progressive Religious Zionism, and is represented in the World Zionist Congress by ARZENU^[2]. In America, liberal or progressive Zionism generally refers to politically left-wing Zionists, some but not all of whom are Reform Zionists.^[3]^[4] Politically progressive Zionists are represented in the World Zionist Congress by Hatikvah.^[5]" Tysonsahib (talk) 16:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How can I help establish a consensus for this alteration? The current sentence is unsubstantiated; it has no source. The suggested alteration is based on reliable sources. Would it be helpful to provide more sources?

Here are some more sources:

Here are some recent articles about the Jewish Reconstructionist movement affirming support for "progressive Zionism." The five principles that define "progressive Zionism" are all political. None relate to Reform Judaism. The Reconstructionist movement is definitionally not part of Reform Judaism. https://www.timesofisrael.com/reconstructionist-judaism-affirms-support-for-progressive-zionism-amid-recent-divides/

https://forward.com/fast-forward/629697/following-internal-drama-over-israel-reconstructionist-judaism-affirms-support-for-progressive-zionism-and-2-state-solution/

Here is a 2019 book review that also defines "progressive Zionism" in political, not religious, terms: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/case-progressive-zionism/

This 2021 book of essays defines progressive Zionists in the US context as "American Jews who support progressive policies but also support Israel" - this has nothing to do with Reform Judaism. https://jewishinsider.com/2021/06/the-politically-lonely-progressive-zionists/

Here is another recent article that defines progressive Zionism in political, not religious, terms: https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-798411

When you click on the term "progressive Zionism" in that article, it takes you to this 2023 article: https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-754527 In this article, "Reform, Reconstructionist, and non-denominational Jews" who have liberal or progressive politics are included in the category of "progressive Zionists." It is NOT limited to "the ideology of the Reform branch of Judaism." Tysonsahib (talk) 18:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The URL for this external link no longer works. I tried to find a new URL but was unsuccessful. Pro Zion - Progressive Religious Zionists UK Tysonsahib (talk) 19:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://arza.org.au/

[2] ttps://www.arzenu.org/

[3] ttps://jewishcurrents.org/progressive-zionists-choose-a-side

[4] ttps://www.timesofisrael.com/left-wing-zionist-groups-americans-for-peace-now-and-ameinu-to-merge/

[5] ttps://www.hatikvahslate.net/

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