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The meaning of Rawna (Ravana) Rajput

The meaning of Rawna (Ravana) is from RAV + VERNA, it is the only caste to protect the princely states of the warrior race, which is known as Rawna Rajput. This name came to existence in 1912 in the Jodhpur city progeny under the patronage of Sir Pratap Singh Rai Bahadur, the regent of the Marwar state.

    Ravana Rajput is a group / class of Rajput caste divided by Kshatriya, they can't maintain the certain practice and they have no land in their possession. Therefore, living in princely states and places, but livelihoods of their family's they were dependent on working as a farmer and posted in different positions like (Daroga, Hazuri, Wazir, Kothari, Bhandari, Havaldar, Kotwal etc) in the princely states.    
    Ravana Rajput is a society of glorious Kshatriya class, which keeps its separate existence due to love for their motherland renunciation, bravery, dignity, affection and country service. This class of Rajputs has its own glorious past and history.
    Today this newly created names are prevalent in many districts of Rajasthan by beyond the boundaries of Marwar.

- Virendra Singh Rawna

Vsrawna (talk) 03:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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This is wrong imformation spreded by wrong persons 2405:205:150A:510C:DC0F:949:B746:985D (talk) 08:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:04, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ravna rajput is original rajput clan but they are mostly working as soldiers in princely states 9f rajsthan

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requested to move to Ravana Rajputs

Requested move 15 July 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ravana (caste) → Ravana Rajputs – "Ravana Rajputs" was the original name of this page, and we should revert to that. Ravana Rajputs is a common name used by sources. Academic sources, newspapers, etc. LukeEmily (talk) 02:44, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The earlier title "Ravana Rajputs" is widely used in modern works as well as in government notifications. Krayon95 (talk) 06:07, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LukeEmily. In this revision [1], WP:RAJ might not be applicable, since the citation is for its modern editor Komal Kothari who wrote the Introduction.^[1] Krayon95 (talk) 06:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Singh, Hardyal; Kothari, Komal (1990). The Castes of Marwar, Being Census Report of 1891. Books Treasure. pp. xi. The case of the Darogas/Ravana Rajputs/Hajuria (as known in different regions) serves as an excellent illustration of this point. The Darogas were issues of Rajputs, Charans, and Oswals from concubines belonging to various castes. Our authors have not dealt with this group at all because by the beginning to this century they had not achieved caste status. It is interesting to note that until fairly recently this group did not have Bhats of its own. It was only after Independence that this group made efforts to organise itself as a caste and one of the first things they did was to appoint Bhats for their families.

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Request for adding letter of Jodhpur Maharaja

In this lettet the Kingdom of Marwar Maharaja Gaj Singh state that:

Before the invasion and occupation of the Mughals, Kshatriyas ruled the entire India. In that period, 'Raj-putra' indicated Kshatriya princes or dynasties. The word Rajput or Rajput is a corruption of the Sanskrit word Rajputra. Which is authentic. Those who had kingdom and land started being called by names like Maharaja, Raja Rajvi, Umrao and Samant etc. Those who had land only for their own cultivation were called Rajput, Ada Rajput, Halkhand Rajput. After the peaceful period of the British, many Rajputs retired from military services and due to weak economic condition and lack of land, they started working in the administrative services of kings and emperors. According to the country, region and language difference, these jagir-less Rajputs, who worked on the same posts from generation to generation, started being addressed by the names of their posts and the word Ravana Rajput started being used for this class. There is no caste named Ravana Rajput in history. The whole-hearted support and ancient services given by this class to the royal family (in the state, in domestic affairs, in diplomacy and in trust works) cannot be forgotten. Due to the crookedness of the times, some vested interests and illiterate people do not like to see the progress of this section of the Rajput society. They are engaged in differentiating and separating the state families and chieftains from this class. Even this section of Rajput society has been addressed by different names as undesirable and indecent, creating an atmosphere of confusion. Such efforts are not helpful in creating a pure social environment. In the royal family, people of this Rajput class have been respected and addressed by the names of mother, grandmother, brother-in-law, uncle, maternal uncle etc. It would be a big mistake to forget the sacred relationship of brotherhood between the royal family and the Ravana Rajput community at any cost. Due to economic backwardness, Rajput society cannot be divided by spreading an atmosphere of confusion and calling them by different names. The relationship of this Rajput class with the royal family has always been and will always be one of brotherhood. People of this class have worked in the state services very efficiently, with devotion, patriotism and sacrifice, bravery and patience on senior military and civilian posts. Women have also not lagged behind in patriotic works. An effort to eliminate the above classified discrimination was made by Sir Pratap Singh Ji Musahibala in Jodhpur and after this by Late Maharaj Shri Ummed Singh Ji Saheb, which had a very good impact on the Rajput society. Is. I have come to know that today in independent India, some selfish and ignorant people, in order to create rift and division among the Rajputs, say inappropriate things about these jagir-less Rajputs and Ravana Rajputs, which is their foundation and is an indicator of ignorance. Actually Rajput, Ravana Rajput is not a different caste from Rajputs. Rather, it is a section of the Rajput caste. I hope that the Rajput people will unite and take the lead in serving the country and public service, this is my believe.
— Maharaja Gaj Singh, Rajput or Ravana Rajput are all Kshatriya Rajputs, Date-15-11-1970

Square season (talk) 11:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Singh, Hardyal; Kothari, Komal (1990). The Castes of Marwar, Being Census Report of 1891. Books Treasure. pp. xi. The case of the Darogas/Ravana Rajputs/Hajuria (as known in different regions) serves as an excellent illustration of this point. The Darogas were issues of Rajputs, Charans, and Oswals from concubines belonging to various castes. Our authors have not dealt with this group at all because by the beginning to this century they had not achieved caste status. It is interesting to note that until fairly recently this group did not have Bhats of its own. It was only after Independence that this group made efforts to organise itself as a caste and one of the first things they did was to appoint Bhats for their families.

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