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This article was nominated for deletion on 29 August 2011. The result of the discussion was keep but possibly merge elsewhere.

Serious objectivity problems

There are two major problems with this article

1) Some authors have felt the need to put their disgust of using Mercury in medicine in each section. To those authors: This article is not suppose to be your opinion, but a description of what the Rasa Shastra actually states. Please keep the criticism to the criticism section. Moreover, please give citations for the criticisms.

2) There are virtually no references. Please include more references —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.37.165 (talk) 05:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

I can't begin to even understand this article, but mercury is toxic. There really needs to be a criticism section in this article... what do people think? Also, a mention of this article: http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/300/8/915 Observer31 (talk) 12:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is an article advocating the ingestion of toxic metals. Does anybody have a problem with this?--NoPetrol (talk) 01:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's a tiny "Disclaimers" link at the bottom of the page. Wikipedia is 100% risky free OK.

Seriously though, this article lacks any references, and should be deleted unless references are introduced. --129.241.151.140 (talk) 17:54, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a criticism section and have included what I think is a pretty suitable list of references. I have noted in the edit history that some criticism was a bit ... unduly harsh. While I intend to keep an eye on this page to be sure that the criticism section does stay here, let's be civil folks and not go overboard. Observer31 (talk) 01:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I would expand on this a bit - looking at the edit history of the page, I see that someone removed "hateful speech"... and yeah, what was written was very harsh. By writing a more "neutral-toned" critique, it makes it harder to justify removing it.Observer31 (talk) 12:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

Ok, are there *any* references to this stuff besides information on mercury toxicity? I've added a few references, but they only pertain to the criticism section.Observer31 (talk) 03:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few Indian texts- namely, rasaratnasamuchaya, that deal with the processing of mercury to make it into a bhasma. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.31.159.116 (talk) 05:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

how u can call a substance toxic if it it is treating lakhs of people whom no pathy can treat. i am saying this because i have given mercury to many people without causing any harm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.68.8.189 (talk) 08:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted material

"On the theory of "yatha lohe tatha dehe" it is believed to have done much in the creation of Rasa Shastra." We can put this back in if we can figure out what it means and attribute it. Jo3sampl (talk) 21:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Samskara or sanskara?

Samskara: A purificatory ceremony or rite marking a major event in one's life. Sanskara: In Hinduism sanskaras (singular: sanskara) (Sanskrit for impression; under the impulse of previous impressions) are the imprints left on the subconscious mind by experience in this or previous lives, which then color all of life, one's nature, responses, states of mind, etc. Both if these words appear in the article -- not sure if that's correct. Jo3sampl (talk) 21:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Insert non-formatted text here== where is Criticism section ==

I cant see it anymore. - Abhijeet Safai 18:41, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

where is Criticism section

I cant see it anymore.

-Abhijeet Safai 18:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijeet Safai (talk • contribs)

The material formerly at "Criticism" is now at "Toxicity", which more precisely describes the substance of the criticism. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:12, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To wikipedia : find authentic authors please

A person from USA or any other elsewhere reads something (or a lot thing - as per that person's view) on an indian topic and writes a wikipedia page on that topic --- accepted! after that, when a person comes from india and edits some things which are for the better knowledge of wikipedia readers, and the our foreigner brother undoes the edits and put back those old things written by him --- not accepted!!

we are having a great team for the topic RASA SHASTRA and hundreds of subtopics. help us to transform our knowledge to write it over here in wikipedia pages. Thank you, Milindchatrabhuji (talk) 11:11, 5 September 2015 (UTC) Dr Milind Chatrabhuji, M.D. (Rasa Shastra)[reply]

When dealing with medical subjects, Wikipedia needs reliable medical sources and avoids fringe viewpoiints without putting them in context. The consensus of evidence based medicine is that mercury and arsenic are poisonous, and that taking them as medicines puts your health in danger. Your removal of the sourced text and replacing it with unsourced naterial that is barely in English. ( And this resulted in the advent of Pottali Kalpana. The Parad Kalpa got divided into 4 clear types: Kalvi Rasayan, Parpati Rasayan, Kupipakva Rasayan and Pottali Rasayan. The concept of trituration of Parad with equal amount of Shodhit Gandhak by weight to form Kajjali, gave a material that was in solid state.) This is not helpful. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:56, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I am working on SuperHumans Project.

I am working on SuperHumans Project. From the traditional Indian medicines of Ayurveda and Rasashastra, I have found some formulations to make the homo sapiens to the SuperHumans. I have seen nice results in my clinical trials. If anybody want to join me on this project you can contact me for sure. Dr. Milind Chatrabhuji, Suvarna Ayurveda, Shop No. 10, Chandravilla Flats, Near Atmajyoti Ashram, Ellorapark, Vadodara, Gujarat, India. Call me at plus Nine One Eight Triple Zero Four Five Nine Seven Three Two. or Email me at milind.chatrabhuji at gmail dot com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.91.163.255 (talk) 13:28, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Objectivity and citations

This page is incredibly biased and lacks critical citations, especially concerning dates and names of authors.

The history of development is factually incorrect, the classical textbook list includes massively incorrect dates, very few citations, and appears to just be a random collection of texts.

The writing is stilted and needs to be updated to read more clearly.

The use of diacritics is inconsistent and needs to be edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:F346:E800:94D0:205E:9482:DCC8 (talk) 22:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nor a see also section

I removed this from the text under the heading "See also" - this is not a list of wikilinks. Don't know what it is or where it should go, but please properly title it if you put it back into the article. Skyerise (talk) 13:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not true

"In Ayurvedic medicine, the compilation of traditional ancient Indian medicine practice is called rasashastra,.."

Source?

No. Rasashastra might be a part of ayurveda. But is not a compilation of traditional Indian medicine.

A compilation of Indian traditional medicine is "Ayurveda/Ayurvedic"

"Rassa" means mercury

"shastra" means knowledge.

"Rasashatras"= knowledge/science of mercury.

(or some people say "knowledge of metals")

~~Ed~~ 2607:FEA8:4A2:4100:A197:DB2B:C167:D149 (talk) 00:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Maurya, SantoshKumar; Seth, Ankit; Laloo, Damiki; Singh, NarendraKumar; Singh, AnilKumar; Gautam, DevNath Singh (2015). "Śodhana: An Ayurvedic process for detoxification and modification of therapeutic activities of poisonous medicinal plants". Ancient Science of Life. 34 (4): 188–197. doi:10.4103/0257-7941.160862. ISSN 0257-7941. PMC 4535066. PMID 26283803.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

[2] "CHARAKA-SAMHITA". Journal of the American Medical Association. XXI (13): 465. 1893-09-23. doi:10.1001/jama.1893.02420650031008. ISSN 0002-9955.

[3] Dhirajsingh, Rajput (2013). "Standard Operating Procedure of Naga Shodhana and study of chemical changes in the media and Shodhita Naga" (PDF). Annals of Ayurvedic Medicine. Retrieved 25 May 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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