Talk:Qlippoth/Archive 1

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Copying content of this page to Talk:Tree of death (Kabbalah) following article merger. __meco 08:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a fully new version of the article, and believe that it settles all discussion points mentioned here before. So I removed them. Bring up new ones. :-) Denial 19:27, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Style question (admittedly much less earth-shattering than what has gone before): the use of capitalization is very inconsistent. I have cleaned a bit of this up, (Kabbalah/Qabalah, Judaic, Hasidic, etc.) but I'm unable to find consistent supportive evidence for qliphoth/Qliphoth and sephiroth/Sephiroth. I believe both should be capitalized, but my knowledge comes from sources that are not neutral. Is it correct to not capitalize these? Canonblack 05:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hermetic?

I found the hermetic interpretation of thjis article extremely biased and pro jewish. Many of these theories come under the misunderstanding of hermeic philosophy and are extremely pro-monotheistic. thusly, i am deleteing some of the outragious statements and hope either I feel sober and have enough time off work to improve the hermetic section myself or someone else will do it for me. I also have a problem with this whole paragraph.

'Kabbalah as interpreted in Hermeticism God is sometimes thought to shine with his pure, divine light into a chaotic darkness, Tohu va-Bohu, that did not cease to exist when God created light and order (the contrasting view in Judaic Kabbalah supports that the act of creation by God required retraction of the divine essence or tzimtzum; the notion of void or matter external to God is antithetical to Judaic Kabbalah, which leans toward panentheism). This darkness is equated to the qliphoth and also represents evil, because it is thought to be opposite or antagonistic to God's creation.'

Hermeticism originated with the corupus hermeticum amongst other documents via the first and third century a.d. and I don't think this statement reflects those theories at all. Besides which, Later hermetic theory (rosicrusians, papus, paracelsus, john dee, golden dawn, etc. etc. etc.) do not seem to reflect this view nor do i see this cited at all. If you can site this opinion. Then by all means include it. Otherwise I am deleting it. JaynusofSinope

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Needs more references and reference citations. John Carter 18:02, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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