Talk:Petar Blagojević
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[edit]This appears to be a copyright violation from the book listed under refernces. Even though the original german document is PD, the English translation could be undercopyright. Please do not move to wikisource without clearing this up. --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 00:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit]The Report about PETER PLOGOJOWITZ Case - 1725
And since with such people (which they call vampires) various are to be seen that is, the body undecomposed, the skin, hair, beard, and nails growing - the subjects resolved unanimously to open the grave of Peter Plogojowitz and to see if such above-mentioned signs were really to be found on him. To this end they came here to me and, telling of these events, asked me and the local parish priest, to be present at the viewing- And although I at first disapproved, telling them that the praiseworthy administration should first be dutifully and humbly informed. and its exalted opinion about this should be heard, they did not want to accommodate themselves to this at all, but rather gave this short answer: I could do what I wanted, but if I did not accord them the viewing and the legal recognition to deal with the body according to their custom, they would have to leave house and home, because by the time a gracious resolution was received from Belgrade, perhaps the entire village - and this was already supposed to have happened in Turkish times - could be destroyed by such an evil spirit, and they did not want to wait for this, Since I could not hold these people from the resolution they had made, either with good words or with threats, I went to the village of Kisilova, taking along the Gradisk priest, and viewed the body of Peter Plogojowitz, just exhumed, finding, in accordance with thorough truthfulness, that first of all I did not detect the slightest odor that is otherwise characteristic of the dead, and the body, except for the nose, which was somewhat fallen away, was completely fresh. The hair and beard- even the nails, of which the old ones had fallen away - had grown on him; the old skin, which was somewhat whitish, had peeled away, and a new one had emerged from it. The face, hands, and feet and the whole body were so constituted, that they could not have been more complete in his lifetime. Not without astonishment, I saw some fresh blood in his mouth, which, according to the common observation, he had sucked from the people killed by him. In short, all the indications were present that such people (as remarked above) are said to have. After both the priest and I had seen this spectacle, while people grew more outraged than distressed, all the subjects, with great speed, sharpened a stake - in order to pierce the corpse of the deceased with it- and put this at his heart, whereupon, as he was pierced, not only did much blood, completely fresh, flow also through his ears and mouth, but still other wild signs (which I pass by out of high respect) took place. Finally, according to their usual practice, they burned the often mentioned body, in his case, to ashes of which I inform the most laudable Administration, and at the same time would like to request, obediently and humbly, that if a mistake was made in this matter, such is to be attributed not to me but to the rabble, who were beside themselves with fear.
A fictional work that discusses the Plogojowitz case in some detail is the French thriller "Un Lieu Incertain" by Fred Vargas - should this be added or would it be considered trivia?
Josgeluk (talk) 17:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
let's be enlightened
[edit]The vampire article makes it clear that the signs of vampirism found on Plogojowitz's corpse are entirely normal. Gases in the stomach and intestines bloat the corpse, which makes it look as if it had been gorging itself, and the pressure of the gas forces the blood into the lungs and then into the mouth, making it look as if the corpse had been feasting on blood. The withrawal and decay of the skin accentuate the hairline, making it look as if the corpse's hair was still growing, and, smilarly, the withering of the skin makes the nails look longer.
What I can't explain is why so many of his neighbours died so soon after him, in apparently violent ways. Could it be that some acts of vengeance were committed at at a time when the murderer could hide behind Plogojowitz's scourge? Myles325a (talk) 08:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Plogojowitz? REALLY? Who transliterated this? Zie Germans?
[edit]Blagojević (as it is correctly written in Serbian) is the same last name as one held by the former Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich.
Granted, the Austrian who originally wrote about the case messed up the name, but that is no reason not to mention the correct pronunciation.
It's as if Demi Moore was transliterated to Serbian as Demi Mur, which was then transliterated back into English as Dummy Myuer or some such nonsense. 92.36.133.227 (talk) 19:12, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think Petar Blagojevich is a more accurate transliteration of the Serbian name, especially given the example of Rod Blagojevich. I'll rename the page and fix the links. -- Danny (talk) 17:08, 7 June 2014 (UTC)