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[edit]This article covers three or four different museums in the same building. Would it make sense to move the article to the current name "The Peale"? I am asking as I am not familiar with Baltimore history.
- 1814 to 1829 Peale's Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Painting
- 1931 to 1978 Municipal Museum of Baltimore
- 1981 to 1997 Peale Museum (formerly Municipal Museum of Baltimore)
- 2022 to date The Peale
- The building is registered as "Peale's Baltimore Museum"
- The 19th century museum moved to another building in 1830, covered in Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Fine Arts written by 4meter4.
- There were other Peale museums run by the family in the 19th century, e.g. Peale's Philadelphia Museum, Peale Museum, New York City
- Pinging RickinBaltimore because of his user name.
TSventon (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- You rang? Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to that, seeing as we have a precedent elsewhere with the formerly known Sears Tower. RickinBaltimore (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support renaming to The Peale. We should definitely use its current name. There are tons of articles on museums and theaters that have had multiple names. Unlike what RickinBaltimore claimed with a rather poor cherrypicked example, common practice with an article involving a current institution is to use its current name. For some examples: Museum of Us was at one time called Palace of Science and then Museum of Man. The Stephen Sondheim Theatre was for most of its history Henry Miller's Theatre. The David H. Koch Theater was from 1964-2008 the New York State Theater. Since this is a currently active institution it should use its current name. I'd also point out that the building has been used by municipal government and as a school in addition to being a museum. Each period of the building should be covered in a history section with multiple subsections, and the lead should reflect both the current institution and the historical institutions that at one time occupied the building. 4meter4 (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- In my defense it was the first name change I could think of, not a cherry picked example. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- According to this report the school is now Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore, Maryland). TSventon (talk) 17:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- @RickinBaltimore I didn't mean to accuse you of misrepresenting on purpose. I just meant that the example wasn't a good choice for a "precedent" as it isn't an accurate representation of current wider practice. @TSventon The school definitely deserves coverage then in this article. One other possible solution would be to create a separate article on "The Peale" as an organization, and have this article cover the wider history of the building across multiple uses. In that case the name of the page could stay where it is. That actually might be the better choice.4meter4 (talk) 17:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- @4meter4: I have made some minor additions and tidied up the article. More could be added about the school or the 20th century museum, I am not sure how much more there is to say about the the latest incarnation. TSventon (talk) 00:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @RickinBaltimore I didn't mean to accuse you of misrepresenting on purpose. I just meant that the example wasn't a good choice for a "precedent" as it isn't an accurate representation of current wider practice. @TSventon The school definitely deserves coverage then in this article. One other possible solution would be to create a separate article on "The Peale" as an organization, and have this article cover the wider history of the building across multiple uses. In that case the name of the page could stay where it is. That actually might be the better choice.4meter4 (talk) 17:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- According to this report the school is now Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore, Maryland). TSventon (talk) 17:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- In my defense it was the first name change I could think of, not a cherry picked example. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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