Talk:Pauline Robinson Bush

Pauline Robinson Bush was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
December 2, 2018	Good article nominee	Not listed
December 6, 2018	Articles for deletion	Kept
January 13, 2019	Good article nominee	Not listed

Current status: Former good article nominee

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entry to "Heaven"?

Heaven shouldn't be capitalised in the text and it shouldn't be treated as an actual place. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 05:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul Benjamin Austin: Don't know how that typo got past me, I read through the finished article a couple of times. Thanks for the heads up, though, I just changed it. Alex (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Buried next to her paternal grandmother?

Dorothy Walker Bush died in 1992, nearly 40 years after her granddaughter. How could they've buried Robin next to Dorothy, in 1953? GoodDay (talk) 02:38, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@GoodDay: She was buried by her grandmother, not beside her, as in her grandmother buried her. Alex (talk) 16:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the sentence could be worded better. In my area, by & beside in this context, means the same thing. GoodDay (talk) 16:35, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The comma, context, and this discussion clarify that Dorothy Walker Bush led the action of burying Robin when her body was released by science. 67.0.67.227 (talk) 06:28, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

“H. W.” or “H.W.”?

Regarding mentions of Robin’s father George, should his middle initials for “Herbert Walker” be written “H. W.” (with a space between) or “H.W.” (without the space)? --SilSinn9821 (talk) 06:34, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SilSinn9821 probably either would be fine as long as it's consistent. I went ahead and made all instances "H. W." for internal consistency, as that is how it appears in the article George H. W. Bush. Enwebb (talk) 17:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case, I would also suggest checking Barbara Bush for “H. W.”-vs-“H.W.” consistency. Thankee! --SilSinn9821 (talk) 18:22, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't often edit political articles/those of politicians' families--this is one of the only ones on my watchlist. Feel free to be bold and DIY! Enwebb (talk) 19:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This article fails its GA review. The nominator has not made a single edit to wikipedia in the last month (last one was to nominate) and thus has not addressed the issues raised. The review has been on hold for over a week. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 05:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pauline Robinson Bush/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I'm going to be doing this review. Looking forward to it

Reviewer: DannyS712 (talk · contribs) 09:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Review

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Notes

General
1. Should her mother be referred to as "Barbara" (first name basis)?
2. And father - George HW?
Lede
1. was the second child and eldest daughter of the rephrase
2. After she was born in California, her family soon relocated to Texas, where Robin lived most of her life. rephrase
3. As she was given very little time to live, her parents flew her to New York City for treatment, where she spent the next six months. rephrase
4. Despite doctors' efforts, she died two months before her fourth birthday. efforts to do what? her death was expected (see preceding text in the same paragraph
5. Her death prompted them to establish a foundation for leukemia research. who is them?
Life
1. Then an oil field equipment salesman for Dresser Industries, George H. W. Bush lived in various places around the United States with his wife, Barbara (née Pierce), and their young son, George W. when is then? rephrase this sentence. suggest striking ~~young~~ son
2. In 1949, they moved to Compton, California; by then, Barbara was pregnant with the couple's second child. rephrase - by then?
3. On September 23, 1949, Pauline Robinson Pierce, Barbara's mother, was killed in a car accident, which also injured her father, Marvin. Since she was very late into the pregnancy, Marvin advised Barbara not to make the journey to New York, so as not to hurt the baby. why is this needed? make it shorter
4. , so much so that, later in life, rephrase
5. having a "sweet soul". need a source for this specific quote
6. the family quickly became involved in their new town. why is this needed? eliminate
Illness & death
1. stating that she "may go out and lie on the grass and watch the cars go by" need a source for this specific quote
2. Barbara believed Robin had come down with what her mother had referred to as "spring fever", as, up until that point, she had been "as rowdy and healthy" as her brothers. rephrase, suggest splitting into 2 sentences
3. The child was taken to the family's pediatrician, Dorothy Wyvell, who took a blood sample and told Barbara to return later that afternoon with George H. W.; Barbara had not yet noticed the bruises on Robin.
  1. "the child" - name
  2. "George H. W.; Barbara" - confusing, suggest 2 sentences
  3. what bruises?
4. Her advice for them was to not tell anyone about the child's illness, and to take her home, "make life as easy as possible for her, and in three weeks' time, she'll be gone." Neither parent had ever heard of leukemia, and, in the 1950s, not much was known of it; consequently, it was nearly always fatal.
  1. Her - unclear pronoun
  2. "the child"
  3. split 1st sentence into 2
  4. 2nd (now 3rd) sentence should be rephrased
5. from the country club were what country club? wasn't explained earlier. Don't link country club to general definition, link to specific club...

I'm going to stop here for now. This article needs a major copy edit before I proceed --DannyS712 (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Please note here when you have fixed the issues noted above, and once I confirm that I will strike them. Please do not just remove them yourself. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:58, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexcoldcasefan: reminder ping --DannyS712 (talk) 01:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.