Talk:Paul Chapman (Australian footballer)

On 27 June 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from Paul Chapman (footballer, born 1981) to Paul Chapman (footballer). The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page moved per consensus. Bbb23 (talk) 19:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Chapman (footballer, born 1981) → Paul Chapman (footballer) – Move back to the original title. A Welsh association footballer with the same name exists, but is yet to have an article. Not a good reason to disambiguate further. And perhaps the mover of the page should in future check which sport the subject of the article plays before citing the guidelines of an unrelated WikiProject. IgnorantArmies 13:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment shouldn't the two players be called "Paul Chapman (association football player)" and Paul Chapman (Aussie-rules player) ? -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 03:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Chapman (Australian footballer) would be the preferable title if there actually was a need to disambiguate further. IgnorantArmies 06:33, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Chapman (Australian footballer) is my preference, as per the discussion from 3 years ago, that didn't really achieve consensus. I would bet that NO ONE would know what year the two players were born in, but everyone interested in these two players would know them by occupation (footballer) and nationality, so despite the interesting guideline change to (footballer, born XXXX), I will be WP:IAR and sticking with (footballer) if there are no other footballers of any code, of any nationality; (Australian footballer) if there exists a non-Australian of the same name who plays any football code; and (Australian rules footballer) if there is another Australian who plays a different code of football. Birth year only comes in to consideration after that. Incidentally, until this page move, we had 100% of the pages needing birth year located at "born XXXX", and none at ", born XXX". So, no, I won't be moving or complying with the comma recommendation, as it is unnecessary and goes against the conciseness provision of the naming convention guideline. The-Pope (talk) 14:41, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I normally would've just moved it back, but the mover changed the target of the redirect, I'm not an administrator, blah blah blah, hence the RM. IgnorantArmies 06:54, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. This is over-precise disambiguation unless there's another footballer named Paul Chapman with an article. If there were, Paul Chapman (Australian footballer) and Paul Chapman (Welsh footballer) would be the correct disambiguation. --BDD (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. WP:Unnecessary disambiguation. --B2C 17:34, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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