Talk:Princess Olga Alexandrovna Yurievskaya

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Did you know... that Olga Yurievskaya, a daughter of Alexander II of Russia and Princess Catherine Dolgorukova, was legitimated by her parents' morganatic marriage?

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexander II, Princess Dolgorukova, Olga, and George

... that Olga Yurievskaya (pictured, right), a daughter of Alexander II of Russia and Princess Catherine Dolgorukova, was legitimated by her parents’ morganatic marriage?
Source: Lindsey Hughes, The Romanovs: Ruling Russia 1613-1917 (New York: 2008), p. 185

Reviewed: Keweenaw Brewing Company

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 04:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: (1) Why did we chose this pic instead of the portrait? (2) Having read the article, I am none the wiser as to why her parents' marriage was a morganatic one. (I presume because of her low social status.) (3) AGF on offline source. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Hawkeye7. I chose the picture because it shows all three people mentioned in the hook, and I thought it was a lot more interesting. The formal portrait of Olga (copied above) is also available. I know the answers to your question. First, there was a strong convention that Russian Tsars did not marry their subjects dynastically, however grand they were. Second, with Princess Dolgorukova there was also the big problem that she had been this Tsar’s mistress for several years. If I can find a source for those reasons for the morganatic marriage, I’ll add them into the article. Moonraker (talk) 20:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. While my guess was that it was because of her low social status, it is also possible that the purpose of the morganatic marriage was to legitimise the children without displacing others in the line of succession; the former seems more likely because all the Tsar's legitimate children were older, and the children were granted princely titles, but it may still have been a factor. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]