Talk:Northridge Preparatory School

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Explanation for 10/11/ reversion

I have reverted to a previous update. Here is the exlanation why First will be considered what was added by 209 ...., then what was removed by 209...

The discussion of the relationship between the schools and the archdiocese was replaced with a false dichotomy. "Since NRP is an independent school, it doesn't belong on the Catholic schools list..." There is nothing about calling a school independent that prevents it from being a Catholic school. Woodlands Academy is a member of several independent school associations and still calls itself Catholic. Loyola Academy is listed on th ISBE as an independent school, but cooperates with the Archdiocese. So that sentence is misleading and so it is removed.

Now the question arises whether the material previously removed should be retained . The Wikipedian tests are whether the material is: pertinent to the subject, verifiable, and neutral. First those tests will be applied to the relationship section and then to the issue of accreditation/ peer section.

Is the discussion of a the relationship between the Archdiocese and a self-described Catholic institution not part of the diocese a matter of interest ? Anyone with an elemental knowlege of Church history knows that this sort of issue perennially affects both bishops and orders ( or similar institutions like OD ). That it is pertinent is beyond question. It's a very basic theme. Anyone who questions it should state his authority for doing so. Is the relationship -- or lack thereof -- documented ? Check out the citations; its is. Is the information neutral ? The facts are stated as they appear without praise or blame. Whether the facts are good or bad depend on the opinion one holds of the Archdiocese and its schools office. But the fact is that the schools relationship with the Arch of C is distant and that this is very unusual for a school described as Catholic. Those facts are pertinent, documented and stated neutrally and so are retained . Finally in regard to this section ,the statement about approval of the religious ed progam is qualified because it's not verifiable. It fails a Wikipeian test.

If there is some Opus Dei office of schools that Northridge is under, and if this is documented, then this should be published by those who can do so.

Now with respect to accreditation, is the material pertinet, documented, and neutral? Of course accreditation is pertinent; all the other Catholic and indepemndents believe so. Is it documented : Yes. Is it neutrally stated ? It is stated as neutrally as possible. If Northridge is accredited by some other accrediting organization or undergoes some other perr-review process that can be documented, persons with that information are advised to add it.

The facts are , Northridge is very unnusual for a Catholic school in this area and very unusual among the other schools it has chosen to associate with. It is impoortant for readers of the artticle to understand this.

Now if someone objects to this reversion, it is expected that such objections be explained civilly as is done here without resort to ad-hominem or other base forms of argumentation. That goes without saying, doesn't it ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theteachersson (talk • contribs) 2007-11-10

Nov Comments by UTC

I just overhauled the references in the article, along with a bunch of typo and wording cleanups. I've tagged the claims of fact that do not cite reliable, verifiable sources. As of the edit I did just before this, the 4 statements I see that are unverified are:

"Unverified sources state that the religious education program at Northridge is approved by the Archdiocese of Chicago."
"Unpublished sources state that the enrollment for the 2007–2008 school year is 286 students, with about 200 students in the high school."
"The Athletic Director for Northridge Prep is Will Rey, former Head Basketball Coach at Loyola University." (That's two separate claims of fact, by the way.)
"In 2007, the cross country team is making their third straight appearance in the state tournament."

Per WP:PROVEIT, any of these statements can be removed if citations to reliable, verifiable sources are not given. The rest of the 2007-11-10 article seems well-cited to me. If Northridge Prep is actually accredited by any well-established accreditation association, it would be good if that were given with citations — but maybe the school simply isn't accredited in any well-recognized way. --Closeapple 07:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

March 9 Revision

The accreditation/peer review status of any school is important and pertinent. NRP and TWA's lack of accreditation makes them very unusual vis a vis other Catholic schools in Illinois and makes them in the minority compared to other Opus Dei schools in the US . NRP is in direct competion with an Archdiocesan sponsored school ( Notre Dame for Boys) and with a school with a long history of cooperation with the Archdiocese ( Loyola Academy) Again, NRP's relationship is unusual in an important way and this is pertinent.

Pease see October 2007 coments Theteachersson

April 9 Revision =

This reversion removes vandalism of April 8 and restores the accurate, verifiable, and pertinent material removed by that vandalism. It also removes the comment about NRP being in a Sun Times article about 10 best schools. That comment was misplaced, without attribution or verification, and based on my seacrch of the sun-time' website, inaccurate. Those who disagree would do well to offer an explanation. Theteachersson (talk) 06:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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