Talk:Northern Province, Zambia

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Bisa people?

I looked up the Bisa people here on Wikipedia, and they are listed (under the name Bissa people, but the article says it is also spelled with one "s") as an ethnic group of West Africa, not South Africa. However, they are mentioned as living in Zambia's Northern Province. Why? Are there two Bisa peoples? Yewlongbow (talk) 05:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These are two distinct groups. There are the Bissa of West Africa and the Bisa of central/southern Africa. They speak totally different languages and have totally different histories. But their names look very similar! There are many cases of very different, separate, unrelated "ethnic groups" on the African continent that have similar names, or even the exact same names, so don't feel bad at having been confused! Indeed, in Africa often each "ethnic group" or "tribe" will have multiple names that refer to the same group, and these multiple names often are totally different from each other. (For example, you might come across a reference to the Luo people, who mostly reside in East Africa, in countries like Kenya and Tanzania, or the same Luo people might be referred to as Lwo, Jaluo, Joluo, Dholuo, or Kavirondo. All these names -- Luo, Lwo, Jaluo, Joluo, Dholuo, Kavirondo -- pretty much refer to the same group of people.) If you want to learn more, you could try looking at the website "Ethnologue," which tries to compile and list all the different names for the same linguistic groupings: that will confuse you for sure! Here are Ethnologue's "language family trees" for the Bisa of central/southern Africa (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=1059-16) and the Bissa of West Africa (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=491-16). As you will see, the two languages have very different linguistic roots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.25.216.240 (talk) 23:21, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bisa 'language'/people

The Bisa are a Bemba speaking ethnic group. They speak a different dialect than the Bemba proper but it's the same language. By contemporary definition, they are usually classified under 'Bemba' since, like the Bemba proper (those who descend from people who were subject to Chiti Mukulu and not the Bisa paramount chief), they descend from Luba migrants who arrived in what is now Zambia from what is now the Katanga province in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the mid-17th century but eventually split from their sister 'tribe' to form the mushroom clan (Bena'Ngona). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.88.24.191 (talk) 17:02, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rephrasing

'Since this article was written' - an appropriate tag for updating required? Jackiespeel (talk) 10:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Updating

The paragraph 'Since this article was published...' should be updated to 'In [date] ... were transferred to the new...': could someone more familiar than I am with Zambian geography update as appropriate. Jackiespeel (talk) 11:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Communications

This section is largely opinion. I think it should be rewritten or removed to remove opinions. Terms like 'dire', 'very expensive', and 'so bad' are not encyclopedic. There are also no sources. Thoughts? LeviEdits (talk) 05:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]