Talk:Northern Bank robbery/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs) 20:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Having an initial read-through now. Will post some comments tonight and revisit tomorrow or over the weekend. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose/MoS:

Chris Ward was taken from the house in County Down and driven to Poleglass "the house"? You haven't previously introduced Ward or a house so this is confusing. Do you mean from his house?

the house is the County Down home mentioned in the previous sentence, I agree "his house" is better so changed Mujinga (talk) 15:33, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The link on "heist" to List of heists in the United Kingdom is an Easter egg and potentially confusing. It's not where I expected the link to go.

i did that because heist is a disambig page. is it that surprising to go to a list? i could just take it out and put the link as a "see also" instead i suppose Mujinga (talk) 15:35, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why Northern Bank sterling notes which were used and not just "used sterling notes" or "used Northern Bank sterling notes"?

sure could switch in "used Northern Bank sterling notes". actually now I'm wondering if "sterling" is redundant when the figure is given in pounds Mujinga (talk) 15:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

was himself arrested I know what you're getting at but "himself" is redundant here (it would only be useful if he was the one making the arrests)
Perhaps explain the relationship between Sinn Fein and the IRA for the uninitiated?

ha! i was hoping not to, it's such a minefield! i'll have a think on that one Mujinga (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

i've hopefully clarified things in Northern_Bank_robbery#Initial_responses Mujinga (talk) 10:12, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest introducing Martin McGuinness on first mention.

i believe he is linked twice in the lead and "initial responses" Mujinga (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cunningham avoided imprisonment on account of his age How old was he?

65 and the source says it was a factor, but i've just removed it Mujinga (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

alleging it had been improperly processed How so?

brought more into line with source Mujinga (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe explain the relevance of the City bonds robbery in the see also?

if i put List of heists in the United Kingdom there then i could remove City bonds robbery Mujinga (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Breadth of coverage:

A quick Google search turned up at least one book not currently cited: Chris Moore, Ripe for the Picking: The Inside Story of the Northern Bank Robbery.

sadly out of print and not on gbooks, added to "further reading" Mujinga (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

£27.92 on Amazon. Admittedly a little steep. The GA criteria don't say anything about comprehensiveness or thoroughness of research so I don't think it's an issue at this level but if you were interested in taking this to FAC you would struggle to meet 1c. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This news article suggests there was fallout from the robbery not mentioned here.

wow thanks, that's not something i came across, that's very interesting and i'll attempt to work it in Mujinga (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

added the murder and its repercussions to the legacy section

Illustrations:

I think you need more discussion of the banknote and a more detailed caption for the image to satisfy WP:NFCC#8.

the fact that the robbery caused this particular note to be taken out of circulation is for me a justification for its inclusion, I'll try to emphasise that more then Mujinga (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's difficult to illustrate articles like this. Are there any other images that might be useful? Photos of people involved or mentioned, for example?

Yeah I did have a good look but I can try again, would be great to get someone. Well, there are pics of Hugh Orde and the politicians but they are only tangentially related. Mujinga (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

i've added one pic of Hugh Orde, another of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, see what you think Mujinga (talk) 10:21, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think the GA criteria can be comfortably satisfied with just a little bit more work. There are other things I might pick up on if this were an FAC, but with a little more work still it could meet that standard. Excellent work, and I look forward to revisiting in a few days. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya thanks for taking this on, I should be able to answer your comments in the next days, will ping when done, cheers Mujinga (talk) 23:38, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HJ Mitchell I've answered everything now, please let me know what you think Mujinga (talk) 11:04, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent work. Although there's more that could be done if you wanted to take it further, I believe the GA criteria are satisfied. Passing. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]