Talk:NGHTCRWLRS (album)

Requested move 16 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved, per consensus (non-admin closure) Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ _Talk 13:51, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nghtcrwlrs (album) → NGHTCRWLRS (album) – Talk:NGHTCRWLRS#Requested move 3 April 2019 NorthPark1417 (talk) 21:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 11:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support - and speedy close per outcome of band article naming discussion. This reverses the recent undiscussed move of this article. -- Netoholic @ 00:27, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the outcome of band article discussion reflects local consensus and wouldn't stand the test of WP:RS sources. Note: Nghtcrwlrs by Nghtcrwlrs on Apple Music - iTunes In ictu oculi (talk) 10:29, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support and revert recent undiscussed move. I don't necessarily agree with the use of caps, but clearly the title of the album should follow the title of the band and that other discussion is only recently closed. PC78 (talk) 13:24, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the band/trademark name is a different situation to an album or work. This directly violates WP:ALBUMCAPS which states that the titles of musical works must use sentence case. Lazz _R 13:28, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you meant to refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Composition titles rather than WP:ALBUMCAPS (in which I see no mention of sentence case or all-caps). Whatever the guidelines exactly say, to me it seems a bit odd to use a different capitalization for a band and an album of the same name. (This is not an expression of an opinion about which capitalization should be used here.) —BarrelProof (talk) 18:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is in sentence case. The vast majority of sources reference the album and band in ALLCAPS in sentences. -- Netoholic @ 03:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. There should be consistency between the two articles. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:40, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per MOS:TM, WP:ALBUMCAPS, WP:OFFICIALNAME, etc. The first rule of MOS:CAPS is use lower case when sources are not overwhelmingly consistent in capitalizing, and that is the case here. If even iTunes (the first or second largest music distributor, depending on whose stats you trust) uses lower case, this argument is already over. A WP:CONSISTENCY argument is invalid (per WP:GAMING, WP:LAWYER) when the only thing to compare it to is one thinly attended discussion dominated by fans that favored mimicking the logo (which the band does not consistently use!!!), versus tens, probably hundreds, of thousands of articles on commercial entities and products with all-caps logos that are nevertheless at sentence-case WP article titles. It's a completely ass-backwards idea of what WP:CONSISTENCY policy says and means. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:39, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems logical that this should be consistent with the band name. The arguments made in that RM all stand -- it's outright silly for us to use an imagined name different from reliable sources when we know what the correct one is.--Yaksar (let's chat) 01:41, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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