Talk:New South Wales C36 class locomotive

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"C" prefix

Ok, this article, along with the 38 class article, must be renamed with the "C" prefix (C36 class) because that was their official classification. The C indicated that it had six driving wheels. The same applies to the 57 class and 59 class articles, the D prefix indicates eight driving wheels. Benshi —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What you need to do is to cite reliable references for this. I'm aware of the NSWGR naming conventions and agree with your point, but you need to cite a reliable, verifiable and credible reference for your assertion. Eg - a source such as an ARHS article, NSW government archives, something like that. See WP:V. I'd also say that given that the trains portal has a naming convention for loco classes where the actual railway company (or organisation) precedes the class designation and not the country or state, the C36/C38 article names should also be modified to New South Wales Government Railways C36 class or NSWGR C36 class. - Zzrbiker (talk) 09:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am leading towards the shorter NSWGR, mainly because it is easier to type! having the letter or not - I have heard of it before but don't know enough about NSW stuff to say if it was the official stuff. Wongm (talk) 09:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just did a quick check of some sources. Oberg (Locomotives of Australia 1854-2007) refers to it as a C36, but interestingly the New South Wales Rail Transport Museum (who you'd think would be the ones in the know) use the letter prefix with a hyphen (C-36) on their steam loco index page but simply refer to it as a "36 class" on other pages such as the 3642 page. Same pattern follows for the C38 and other classes.

That much said, I've never once seen the AD60 referred to as a "60 class". - Zzrbiker (talk) 10:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well look it's just something I know! You go ask any NSW railfan, they'll agree. "AD" means A= articulated and the "D" means eight driving wheels. The same applies to the C30, C32, C35, C36 and C38. Dont ask me how I know, although I think I remember reading something on A.J Hurst's website, he's a train nut too. btw im only 13. Benshi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.145.67 (talk) 06:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

93MPH top speed?

Can any reference be provided for this?

The NSWRTM book "36" records 3619 reaching a recorded 81.8MPH in 1941, and notes that at the time it was the highest recorded speed for any locomotive in the state and the first time a speed in excess of 80MPH had been recorded.

If 93MPH is just a theoretical guess, then it's probably better to just leave that detail out.

Zzrbiker (talk) 00:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pigs

I am quite surprised that this article does not mention the fact that the C36s were known by their crews as "Pigs". Unfortunately, I no longer have access to all my old rail books else I'd add this reference myself, and do not wish to spend my time searching for an appropriate reference to cite. Can someone please oblige?

Blammy1 (talk) 18:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PS as for the comment "The class was used extensively for performance testing" I was under the impression that aside from operating passenger expresses when/where C38s weren't available, they were also used quite extensively hauling freight trains - often with two locomotives coupled together - on lines where the high axle loads of larger locomotives such as the D57s prohibited their operation (basically, they were a very important and widespread locomotive). Could someone also confirm this too please.

Thanks,
Blammy1 (talk) 18:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]