Talk:Nazi Party

Nazism is a right-wing ideology.

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"Nazi Party" is the English-language common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

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Q: Why is the Nazi Party labeled a far-right party? They called themselves socialists, so should they be left-wing?

A: Almost all historical and present-day academic literature places the Nazi Party on the far-right of the traditional left-right spectrum, which in turn is the most common short-form classification used in political science. The Nazis themselves attacked both left-wing and traditional right-wing politicians and movements in Germany as being traitors to Germany. While the Nazi regime's economic policies are very different from those of present-day right-wing parties that adhere to classical liberal or neoliberal positions (which advocate, e.g., a highly deregulated, privatized economic environment), Nazi economic policy was typical of the early to mid-twentieth century far-right, and indeed most political currents of the time, in that it embraced interventionist economics. The Nazi Party absorbed the far-right reactionary monarchist and nationalist German National People's Party into its membership in 1933. The Nazi Party also held good relations with openly right-wing political movements in Europe, such as the Spanish Confederation of the Autonomous Right, whose leader Gil-Robles was a guest at the 1933 Nazi Party Nuremberg rally and sought to model his movement upon the Nazi Party.

Q: If socialism is mainly left-wing and they called themselves socialists in their name, why is this being ignored?

A: Historically, several right-wing figures used the term "socialism" to mean something very different from what would be understood by traditional left-wing socialism, referring simply to the broader concept of collectivism and anti-individualism. The prominent French reactionary monarchist Charles Maurras famously said "a socialism liberated from the democratic and cosmopolitan element fits nationalism well as a well-made glove fits a beautiful hand". Maurras's views influenced fascism. Oswald Spengler's ideal of "Prussian Socialism" directly influenced Nazism, and Spengler promoted it as a member of the far-right Conservative Revolutionary movement.

Q: Were the Nazis actually a capitalist movement?

A: The answer depends on the context and definition of capitalism. Ideologically, Hitler in private was just as opposed to the ethos of capitalism as he was in public as a politician; he regarded the capitalist ethos as being self-centred individualism that was incompatible with nationalism. Furthermore, in both public and private Hitler regarded capitalism as being created by the Jews for their own interests. The Nazis in public and in private held contempt for bourgeois culture in liberal capitalist societies - as they associated such bourgeois culture with a cosmopolitan, liberal, and decadent lifestyle that was incompatible with the Nazis' ideal of a nationalist martial ethic of disciplined soldiers who were collectively committed to the Fatherland above any individual interest. So, ideologically, Nazism held strong antipathy to capitalism. However, at the same time, Hitler and the Nazis endorsed private property and private enterprise and did not challenge the market economy, which was important to their accrual of power because it avoided antagonizing industrialists and aristocrats. The Nazis themselves claimed that "true socialism" did not involve the Marxian opposition to private property. But if capitalism is defined in a minimum way as involving the support of the existence of private property, private enterprise, and a market economy, then from that minimum definition, the Nazis could be considered as endorsing a capitalist economy.

Q: The proper English name for the Nazi Party is the National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). "Nazi" is an abbreviated term, so why does the article not use the proper name?

A: Because English Wikipedia uses the common name for things, and the common name for the NSDAP in English is the "Nazi Party".

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What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
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beginning to adopt elements of ~~the~~ ~~Fascist's~~ and ~~Mussolini~~ ~~for~~ ~~the~~ ~~Nazi~~ ~~Party~~
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beginning to adopt elements of (Italian?) Fascism and Mussolini's program (?)
Why it should be changed: Just a grammatical/clarity issue in this sentence, under the "Adoption of Italian fascism" section. "Mussolini's program" could also be "Mussolini's public persona" or something else that better fits the source content.

72.198.204.223 (talk) 18:33, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 00:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I'm not surew hat M.Bitton found unclear. My fix was more concise [1] than that proposed above, but the grammar problems were pretty obvious. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 14:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changing the title

I think instead of the term "Nazi Party", the title should be changed to the official name "National Socialist German Workers' Party". Lumofe (talk) 20:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the third box at the top of this page. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:21, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you edit the Nazi Party page

because Germany didn't ban the public display Nazi symbols until 1953, despite the Nazi Party party being dissolved and abolished in 1945, so fix the date of it being banned to 1953, and add the Dissolved date and moved October 10, 1945 to the dissolved section. Djdjfjfjfnfn012 (talk) 18:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two conflicting FAQ pages

This talk page has an embedded FAQ section transcluded from Talk:Nazi Party/FAQ, and there is also Talk:Nazism/FAQ, transcluded into its parent page and into some talkpage-notice templates. These should be merged, concisely, so there's just one maintenance spot addressing the same perennial questions. I would suggest that the proper location for this would be Talk:Nazi Party/FAQ, and just transclude from there as needed (and redirect Talk:Nazism/FAQ to it). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Some of the content in the Nazism version is markedly better. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 14:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Kierzek (talk) 14:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]