Talk:Mothin Ali

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This page was proposed for deletion by an editor in the past.

Editor who wants to "support the right of Indigenous peoples to fight back"

This page is currently experiencing what I view as vandalism by a user (initially anonymous, now @MaxFm2002) who wants to change the lead text from "Mothin Ali [...] is a British Green Party politician" to "Mothin Ali [...] is a UK passport holder of Bangladeshi origin who is a Green Party politician".

Changes to the body text they are trying to make include changing from saying that Harehills "was one of the UK's poorest areas, 40% of whose population was Muslim, with over 65% coming from minority ethnic groups" to "was one of the UK's poorest areas, 40% of whose population were Muslim settlers, mostly from Pakistan and Bangladesh, against only 35% of the population being indigenous white British".

I view the edits as at best unencyclopaedic in tone. I'd like to avoid an edit war on this and so am posting here in the first instance to invite wider community consultation. Alarichall (talk) 08:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism? I am just stating facts about Ethnicity using terms Mr Ali himself uses such as I "support the right of indigenous people to fight back".

Judging by your page, you're a Muslim yourself - so I assume you're a settler? I am a proud indigenous Britain - you're welcome to share my land but please do not appropriate my identity. My people's culture may not mean much to you, but it's the world to me. Please don't be racist. MaxFm2002 (talk) 08:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think your edits are a good-faith attempt to improve Wikipedia as an encyclopaedia. I've put in a request for editing of this page to be blocked temporarily so that an admin can restore the previous text without edit-warring. Alarichall (talk) 09:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"good faith" - you, don't like the fact I am an ethnic british person? Sorry, I will not stand for this bullying. Like I said, my identity as an indigenous person of these lands may mean nothing to you - but that is on you.

Please read the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples

"Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;"

https://www.un.org/development/desa/indigenouspeoples/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2018/11/UNDRIP_E_web.pdf MaxFm2002 (talk) 11:08, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]