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Merge

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After reading all the discussion on this talk page there appears a consensus to merge the two articles into one article. The more popular choice for a merge target at this present time is Kevin Sydney. NOTE: While editors are encouraged to be bold, they are also expected to discuss and form consensus and to avoid edit warring. Hiding T 14:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see that the page is taking some of the previous arguments into account. There is too much vagueness (or disagreement?) regarding Morph's origins, at least with it's current iteration it is a bit more clear that there is some ambiguity between the animated and comic versions. I for one feel that the animated and comic versions are very distinct, with common roots but a clear distinction between the two. - robertcoogan

Fair use rationale for Image:Morpexilesjpg.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Morphanimted.png

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Image:Morphanimted.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone please look at an edit

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this. I'm not knowledgeable about this at all, and stumbled upon this page accidentally when investigating recent contributions by a vandal. Thanks, Enigma message 02:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did the TV version have the real name Kevin Sydney?

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I know that the original Changeling version and the Exiles version were both called Kevin Sydney. Did the version in the X-Men animated series also have this name? 112.213.143.67 (talk) 23:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Morph's real name is never mentioned in the animated series. --2600:1008:B00F:6439:611B:6BA5:BCBC:4D3F (talk) 13:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@112.213.143.67 the Marvel Encyclopedia from 2022 says the Changeling real name is Unknown. 71.178.144.73 (talk) 21:01, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional Character Biography is poorly written

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Besides revealing the plot in a convoluted way, this article does not do any justice to the trials this character had to face. The entire section does not seem to fit an encyclopedic style and tries to smooth over the story. To distinguish from an article in fandom.com, this article may need to be worked on. NK (talk) 11:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

where are people getting Kevin Sydney from?

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I'm looking at the Marvel Encyclopedia entry from 2022 for The Changeling and it says Factfile Real Name = Unknown. no where in this book is Kevin Sydney mentioned not even the Index. 71.178.144.73 (talk) 21:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2024

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Should change the non binary thing, as even the reference they put says nothing about the creator or editor confirming anything, they also do not use they/them in the show. 2600:1000:B147:6E3A:AC9B:F8A8:B404:9714 (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's sourced. M.Bitton (talk) 18:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2024 (2)

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Yeah, just thoroughly went through the “sources” for this non-binary thing, and nowhere in those pages does it even say anything about the voice actor saying morph is non-binary. This need to be changed. 2600:1000:B147:6E3A:AC9B:F8A8:B404:9714 (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Go through it again. M.Bitton (talk) 18:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Name change discussion from "Kevin Sydney" to "Changeling (Marvel Comics)"

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Having taken a look online and in some print sources, although the name Kevin Sydney is associated with the character, it appears that the Main Marvel Universe version of the character (from Earth-616) was never provided with a real name within the comics themselves. It wasn't until Marvel published an encyclopedia in 2004 that he was named "Kevin Sidney", with an "i" instead of "y". In fact, only four years later, another encyclopedia from 2008 outright states "Real Name: Unrevealed, likely Kevin Sydney", discussing how the character is named Kevin Sydney in the Age of Apocalypse and Exiles universe, but that this is probably not the case for Earth-616. Moreover, the Marvel Encyclopedia from 2019 outright states that his real name is "Unknown". Taking this into account, I wonder if the article should be rename to "Changeling (Marvel Comics)"?

The one issue I see with this change is that Changeling has barely 50 appearances across comics, whereas his Exiles counterpart, who is named Kevin Sydney / Morph is far more prominent. What do we do when a comics character is more well-known for one of the alternate universe counterparts? What is the common name in this situation? Changeling, Kevin Sydney, or Morph? PanagiotisZois (talk) 12:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morph is not confirmed to be Non-binary

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Someone keeps reversing the edit im making about morph being non binary, cause the only person who has said that is the actor, whose opinion is not canon. The “sources/references” that have been put “proving” this to be true also say nothing of the sort. 72.92.249.71 (talk) 13:08, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What on earth are you talking about? The Gizmodo source links to a preview from Empire Magazine about the then upcoming series. The preview from Empire Magazine says "Speaking with Empire, [showrunner Beau] DeMayo and supervising producer Jake Castorena introduce the (old) new MVPs of the MCU.". In the Morph section it says "who is nonbinary". It seems clear Empire Magazine which I assume is an RS by itself is saying that this info came from DeMayo and Castorena, not the actor who doesn't seem to be mentioned at all, which I assume is why Gizmodo also presented it as a simple undisputed fact. Nil Einne (talk) 14:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve read through the article several times. Beau demayos name isn’t even mentioned. And the “proof” simply leads to a twitter page. This need to be changed. 72.92.249.71 (talk) 14:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That ENTIRE article simply says “fans WANT him to be non binary.” 72.92.249.71 (talk) 14:59, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. The Gizmodo article says "But, in a new preview from Empire Magazine, it was also confirmed that Kevin will now identify as non-binary in the new show". This doesn't say anything about fans or the actor. It says it was "confirmed" in a preview from Empire Magazine. Since Gizmodo is a reliable source, frankly this is good enough. But anyway, if there's still any doubt, the Gizmodo article links to a tweet where the text in Empire Magazine is mentioned. Most likely, appearing below that main tweet is another tweet where the whole preview is displayed [5]. From that tweet, we can see in this preview the words I mentioned above appear where it's made clear this is coming from the show runner and supervising producer. Of course, you could also view the preview by obtaining a copy of the Empire Magazine article the preview appeared in. So even if you're not willing to take Gizmodo's word for it which you should since it's an RS, we can see that they actually came to a fair conclusion since they were basing it on what the show runner and/or supervising producer told Empire Magazine about the character. Either way, there was never any reason to think Gizmodo came to the conclusion based on what fans wanted or what the actor said. P.S. Since you keep referring to "sources" but AFAICT, the only source directly used in our article seems to be Gizmodo, I assumed you'd already read the Empire Magazine preview before now. If you hadn't read the main source that Gizmodo themselves said was where the confirmation ("confirmed") occurred, I don't understand why you made such a big deal over the sources you'd gone through or read when you missed such a fundamental source. Nil Einne (talk) 16:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]