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Joan Ruddock and Baroness Jay were Ministers for Women in the late a990s. I don't know exact dates though...

When this post was first introduced in 1997, it was an unpaid role. Catchpole 11:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Shakehandsman made an edit to say that the position had responsibility for addressing gender inequality affecting females. I've reverted it, since this is a factual issue. The post has a legal obligation to tackle both male and female inequality (stated as gender equality here) Link to a description of the role on government site. There is a general acceptance that women suffer greater inequality, so it would be fine if Shakehandsman made an edit to bring that out, and to say that most of the work for the position is looking at tackling female inequality. Hence, less time for looking at specific male-related issues. However that is a tricky line to put across without stating your personal opinion. I haven't tried to do that, for that reason. Flapscat (talk) 10:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've no problem with you reverting the edit and I'm glad you've pretty much understood the issue here. Must take you up on one issue though - women may have suffered great inequality in the past, but I'm not so sure you can say that so confidently today. Also, if you look specifically at discrimination and thus inequality directly caused by government you'll find the majority of gender discrimination (and attempted discrimination) is against men - e.g. pensions, family law, domestic violence all areas which have specific and clearly stated gender discrimination against men - the like of which women have seen in years. Also health care provision, (especially cancer) shows pretty clear gender discrimination. Inequality and discrimination isn't just about how much money someone has. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakehandsman (talk • contribs) 13:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No Controversies?

There must be something about the doublethink and sexism etc about this role. Especially considering it was created under Loony Labour. --Kurtle (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The current holder, Nicky Morgan, is now Minister for Equalities and yet voted against same-sex marriage ^[1] Does that count as a controversy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.44.230.209 (talk) 10:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/15/nicky-morgan-education-secretary-women-cameron

UK specific

From its title ("Minister for Women and Equalities") it is not clear that this refers to UK only. I suggest that the title be changed to "Minister for Women and Equalities (UK)" Reilinger (talk) 08:57, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand, it's not been renamed. According to the government's website ^[1], the current holder, Nicky Morgan, happens to be both Minister for Women and Equalities but the previous holder, Sajid Javid MP, was both "Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport and Minister for Equalities at the Department of Culture, Media and Sport". Minister for Women and Minister for Equalities are two different role that happen to often be held by the same person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.44.230.209 (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/minister-for-equality

The position is minister for women and equalities not Minister for Women

The position has not changed from Minister for Women and Equalities to Minster for Women. If you look on the UK government website you will see that Nicky Morgan is Minister for Women and Equalities: https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/minister-for-women-and-equalities--3

Also various news outlets are discussing the irony of an opponent of same-sex marriage being equalities minster: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/15/equalities-minister-voted-against-gay-marriage-nicky-morgan

Lastly, the BBC in this link, when you click on your face states this: "She will also continue as minister for women and equalities." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19475248

I have never edited a wiki page so would rather leave to someone who has. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.130.39 (talk) 19:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Independent?

In "...Government Equalities Office, an independent department within..." what is the word "independent" doing there? It seems that "independent" is a word to be scattered about all over the place. 31.52.251.151 (talk) 11:04, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/15/nicky-morgan-education-secretary-women-cameron

[2] ttps://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/minister-for-equality

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