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Berwyn Heights, Maryland mayor's residence drug raid

Sallicio's first comment is copied from my talk page (here) in regards to the Berwyn Heights raid. I am starting discussion here so we can keep things centralized as this is not the first time this information has been added and then removed. KnightLago (talk) 21:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Just letting you know that I reverted your good faith edits to the article for a few reasons:

The notable achievements section establishes notability through awards won or notable corporations created per WP:N (although it could be put better in prose per WP:MOS.
The Berwyn Heights Raid is inappropriate to be included in the article as it is irrelevant to Jackson personally and would be better suited in the Prince George's County Sheriff's Office article which already has a lengthy subsection as well as its own article. Cheers!--It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 20:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that it is not relevant to Jackson personally. This article in The Washington Post mentions him five times. He was in command, his officers conducted the raid, he spoke at several press conferences regarding his department and its handling of the matter, and the incident received global media coverage.

Regarding the "notable achievements", I am going to re-add it under the heading "Other achievements". KnightLago (talk) 21:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't like how that looked so I just quickly made those a paragraph. KnightLago (talk) 21:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can appreciate the author's intention; however, I would submit that the whole subsection is inappropriate. As it stands, the section is in serious need of a rewrite and needs to remove some of the POV tone that the Berwyn Heights Section contains. The first sentence is obviously misleading. Jackson was technically in command (as he is also in command if someone puts too much toilet paper in a toilet at their headquarters and causes it to overflow flooding 500 square feet of office space ruining thousands of dollars of taxpayers' office equipment. Is Jackson personally to blame for that, too?). However, he was not on scene and was probably unaware of the event and at home when it happened. The event, at the time, had no reason for Jackson to even be notified let alone to actually be on scene as the section implies. The highest person involved was probably a lieutenant. The way it is written, it makes it sound as if the Sheriff himself was on scene hooting and hollering with his six-shooter waving in the air. POV-pushing terms such as "botched" should be removed. The whole subsection wreaks of anti-police/law enforcement sentiment and does not conform to the quality standards set forth within this wiki.

This should also be removed, "...the police were accused by the Calvos and civil rights groups of lacking a proper search warrant, excessive force, and failure to conduct a proper background investigation of the home being raided." Was Jackson accused? Were the deputy sheriffs accused? Was the County Police officers that were on scene accused? Unless Jackson himself was accused, this is inappropriate and should be (as it already is) included in the PGSO article.
This should be removed as well, "...Despite raiding the home of an innocent party, no action has been taken against the officers or their respective police departments." This obviously violates WP:NPOV and is irrelevant to Jackson himself and has no place within the article.

Notwithstanding that the section is inappropriate for inclusion within this particular article, I would proffer that the author rethink the tone of the subsection and rewrite it to conform to WP:NPOV and WP:BIO. Happy editing to all! --It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 02:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sallicio. I appreciate your comments. I agree that the section could be better and I invite you to help me make it better. But I do believe it belongs here is some form. He is responsible for both the hypothetical flood and this raid. While he may not have caused either of them, he was in command. He was also personally involved in the aftermath as demonstrated by his press comments. An example would be Janet Reno and the Waco siege. Maybe we should cut it down a bit to be more like them. KnightLago (talk) 17:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After a conversation with Sallicio I have seen the error of my ways and am going to work on a sentence with a link to the main article. KnightLago (talk) 01:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks bueno to me!--It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 01:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edits by User:Teriarog

A large amount of material was removed from this biography by User:Teriarog who has not edited any other articles to date. This was done without explanation or consensus on the talk page and only removed material that may have reflected poorly on Mr. Jackson (the charitable foundation was left in the article, the shooting of family pets was excised). This appears to be a WP:POTENTIALCOI or a possible whitewashing of his article. For the time being, I am reinstating the removed content but welcome comments or feedback. -Ich (talk) 20:13, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move page to Michael Jackson (politician)

Anyone have an issue with moving the page to take away the "sheriff" part and replace it with "politician". Jackson recently won a seat in the Maryland House of Delegates. It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 06:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being there were no objections within the past two months, I moved the page.It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 14:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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