Talk:Mesocarnivore
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[edit]Should homo sapiens be listed as a mesocarnivore? If not, why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:6A00:B4D0:C833:47EE:6393:2F4C (talk) 02:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- It looks like both this article and the hypocarnivore article list as examples only mammals from the order Carnivora. --GCarty (talk) 17:56, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Incoherent garbage article.
[edit]A mesocarnivore is normally defined as a carnivore that has a diet consisting of between 50% and 70% vertebrate animals. If its diet consists of less vertebrate content than that it is by definition a hypocarnivore and if the content is higher it is a hypercarnivore. Hypo-meso-hyper... Not that difficult to understand, which is why it's the customary definition used by scientists and most other sane humans worldwide.
Some people (Americans?) apparently use an entirely different definition of what a mesocarnivore is. They apparently feel that it has some sort of relation to the concept of an apex predator and means something along the lines of a medium sized predator or carnivore, therefore being detached from dietary preferences.
Mindlessly mixing sources and information based on these radically different definitions of the word everywhere in the article, which is what Wikipedia editors have been doing, creates an incoherent mess of nonsense.
As it stands, the article is worse than useless and creates confusion: Is a lynx or a bobcat a mesocarnivore? The article answers no, yes, and maybe all at once! 2.107.248.41 (talk) 19:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Divergence of figures and definitions
[edit]Hello! Just to point out that this page and the more general "carnivore" page give conflicting information. First, here, non-vertebrates are explicitely excluded from the definition of meat, where they seem to be implicitely included in the "carnivore" article's definition. Second, the "carnivore" article states that a mesocarnivore diet is composed of 30 to 70% meat, while this article indicates a 50 to 70% ratio. If we assume that non-vertebrates are included in the first article's definition of meat, the gap widens. I don't have the expertise i feel would be needed to make accurate corrections, or to add with confidence that the specifics of the subject are still currently debated, but hopefully another wikipedia-ite does! Porkbellied (talk) 23:49, 30 November 2022 (UTC)