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I removed the prob|data notification because I disagree that this song is not notable. Here is the reasons why this song is notable:

1- This composition is one of the most praised in the work of Michael Nyman (see www.allmusic.com). Apart from 'The Piano', Nyman is best known for his loud and wonderful piece 'Memorial'. Micheal Nyman is a chief figure of the minimalist music movement and considered a top 20th century artist by Rhapsody. The composition has been reprised on all "the very best" and other "essential music" CDs about Michael Nyman work.

2-This composition is one of the few cultural response to the wildly known Heysel Stadium massacre in Brussels. People who knows about this event, and who are told of a musical composition dedicated to it, will be able to turn to wikipedia to find about the name of the song. (see http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,1448503,00.html)

3- This composition is part of critic Frank Oteri's list of the most important 100 classical compositions by living composers (see: http://www.newmusicbox.org/archive/century/century.pdf). Many compositions of this list are genuine entries in Wikipedia (eg. Suite_for_Microtonal_Piano).

4- This song has received several reviews by critics. It was described in the Guardian by Waldemar Januszczak as 'a small piece of atonement'.

5- This song has played a crucial role in the creation of Peter Greenaway's movie The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover. It is perhaps the best example of the integration of Nyman's music to Greenaway's work. The final sequence was entirely choregraphed around the composition. The sequence represents a procession bearing the body of The Lover, prepared by The Cook, served by The Wife as a dish for her husband, The Thief

Ok, that's good. Would you mind citing these reviews in the article? J Milburn 13:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll introduce the links in the article as soon as I have some time available. 199.202.95.16 00:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Movements 2 and 4

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"The best known portion is in fact only the fifth movement. ... The second and fourth appear on the limited edition album, La Traversée de Paris." -- This is great! There are tracks on Traversée that sound similar in style to Memorial (e.g. Le Palais Royal), but where did you get this information? I'd love to find out more about this (i.e., specifically which Traversée tracks were originally from Memorial?) -- Lontano (talk) 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nyman mentions this in the CTWL liner notes, which is also where he says that "Images Were Introduced" is movement six. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 16:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article

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Basic information to add to this article: the approximate length of this composition. Is it about 60 minutes in length? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 04:34, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, the original concert can be heard at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjR-YMHWOg
Both the movement starting at 20:36 and the work as a whole are named 'Memorial'.
The numbering of the movements used in the article seems to differ from what is listed in the youtube video. The third movement 'Memorial' is the recurring theme in TCTTHW&HL, not the fifth movement. The fifth movement is 'Images Were Introduced', not the sixth movement. 167.248.96.196 (talk) 03:57, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]