Talk:Mauritius/Archive 2

Hindu population

The article states that the whole population originates from India. This is not entirey true accroding to the last population cenus of Muaritius. It would make sense to apply 'majority' as it was done so for Muslims.--147.89.224.69 (talk) 13:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Hindouism was one of the first cultures in Mauritius. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.68.23.33 (talk) 05:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tamil and Hindi

What is the need for removing Tamil and hindi names of Mauritius??? Tamils and Bhojpuri people are living in large in Mauritius and its already Tamil and Hindi scripts are in Bank notes of Mauritius. So It have to put back. --Jai Kumara Yesappa (talk) 17:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was not the one who initially removed the Hindi and Tamil name translation in the lead (just as they were removed by different people when they were added several times before) but I removed your second addition of those translations in the lead for the simple reason that only name translations in the official or the main languages of the country shall be provided, though there is no official policy on this per wp:lead. In Mauritius, the main languages are Mauritian Creole, French and English (there are references for that in the article). Yes, there are Tamil people in Mauritius but even for these minority, Tamil language is their fourth language only and that is only the case if they decide to learn it at school. Except on the banknotes (where the Tamil scripts are used mostly for historical reason), no official documents whatsoever from the government (or any large Mauritian businesses for that matter) are ever published in Tamil, at least on a regular basis. Just as there are Tamil people in Mauritius, there are other Indo-Mauritians (among which include people of Hindi-speaking ancestors, Gujarati people, Marathi people and Telugu people), Muslim Mauritians, Sino-Mauritians and African-Mauritians. Many of the these groups are officially recognized by the Mauritian Constitution or their cultural holidays are recognized by the government for being a public holiday (see Public holidays in Mauritius). Shall that warrant the inclusion of the country's name translation in these groups' cultural language? I bet no since these languages are learned as fourth language, if ever they are learnt, and they are not used as extensively and officially as English, French and Mauritian Creole. --99.244.91.182 (talk) 07:16, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand Mauritius doesnot have any official language, but the fact you have to understand is Tamil and Bhojpuri are not official language of Mauritius but the both language scripts were included in Mauritian rupee which is obvious printed by Government of Mauritius. Mauritius is multi ethnic country with French, Creole and English which are used for various purposes. I can admit there are Telugu and Marathi People living in Mauritius, but You have to admit Bhojpuri and Tamil are given de jure recognition for these two language because of their large presence in the population. So I think no one can edit these both language script showing here for Mauritius. --99.254.242.12 (talk) 04:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed your addition because the source you provided (tamiltribune.com) isn't much independent in this context and, thus, would make the article violates wp:npov. Please provide a reliable source and a government source stating what percentage of the Mauritian population speak Tamil as a first language and how is it a main language (to the level of Mauritian Creole, French and English) in Mauritius. Also, I think you are confusing people with language. Yes, there are people of Tamil-speaking ancestries in Mauritius but they don't speak or use Tamil to the extent they do for Creole, French and English. Tamil is mostly a cultural if not a historical language for them today. Also, having Tamil scripts on banknotes doesn't make a language official or a main one (As a matter of fact, Mauritian Creole and French are not even on the banknotes). How many people speak it as first language and how many government documents (passports, laws, birth certificates, driving licences, etc..) are printed in a language define official and main languages and we have to find a reliable source stating so. So until you do so, the scripts isn't going back. 99.244.91.182 (talk) 04:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Mauritian Creole Language was imposed at the national level to the 70% of Indo Mauritians & more than 25% of Afro Mauritians as a spoken language. It had never been a written language and was never taught in school; thus there had been no standardization & no textbook existed. People can write in that language, using latin alphabets, only for the sake of pronunciation. Yet, right now, some people (mostly creoles) want it to be introduced as a subject in parallel with the already existing English, French & Oriental Languages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.222.99.174 (talk) 06:03, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uninhabited?

Maybe, I didn't read the article closely enough, but does the article ever make mention of whether the island was inhabited when it was discovered? It the article doesn't, some mention of this needs to be made in the "history" section. --Criticalthinker (talk) 12:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the History section, it says "In 1638, the Dutch established the first permanent settlement.". Could you suggest a way to make this clearer for other people? Maybe we could make mention of it in the lead? There doesn't seem to be much on pre-independence history in the lead already. Munci (talk) 17:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That line doesn't say anything much. "First permanent settlement" is a lined used for those who've 'discovered' some place, but it gives no background as to the history of habitation to the site. And, it's not just the lede; the history section doesn't seem to make note of weather humans had lived on the island prior to the arrival of various explorers. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know already that there were no inhabitants prior to Europeans, the Mascarene islands being some of the few places in the world like that. I think that, if it would have been inhabited before then, it would say something more like "Mauritius was claimed by the Dutch" Anyway, if that isn't enough, we could sure cite this travel book for example:"Mauritius had no native population predating the European colonisers." Munci (talk) 17:43, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that line is very clear and concise, and should probably be the very first sentence in the "history" section. --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

National Colleges

Just to notify: It said "below is a list of national colleges" but we find mixed together other state secondary schools... That's why I moved the list of catholic and private schools which to a new article ---Black Eagle (Talk) 18:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Development Level

The phrase "Mauritius is generally regarded as a developed country similar to Turkey, Serbia and Croatia." is wildly inaccurate or, at least, unfounded.--neolandes (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the point of the adder was to compare the GDP per capita of the 4 countries and show they are all above average for the world or something to that effect. I don't think it's really that necessary anyway. Munci (talk) 22:27, 15 April 2010 (UTC

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National Territory

The Chagos archipelagos has been a Mauritian territory & its occupation by Britain/US is actually an issue of concern.

Tromelin is equally a Mauritian territory.

I request these points to be taken into consideration & the Mauritian territory to be rightly represented on the world map.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.222.99.174 (talk) 05:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mauritius, african or oceanian?

Is mauritius an african or oceanian country? There are citations claiming both continents but which is more popular? Someone65 (talk) 23:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

There are a number of new editors removing mention of minority languages from this article, without any description as to why. Anyone know what's going on? --Ronz (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What is this about "Nadiim Domun became the first person to represent Mauritius properly in Kingston Upon Thames". Makes no sense and seems to be an insignificant student at Kingston poly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.168.165 (talk) 20:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be improved. I would know about Mauritian Creole because my parents are from there, and they speak their language all the time. It's actually based on French, with a few words of English and Spanish, and it's usually spoken with a Chinese accent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.68.23.33 (talk) 05:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I read in this article that nearly everyone in Mauritius speaks English. I turn to the CIA's World Factbook and find: "English (official; spoken by less than 1% of the population)". Which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.150.11.221 (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rendering

Maybe it's just my platform (Google Chrome 12 + Debian 6), but the "Economy" section of this article doesn't render well; the text overlaps with both images in that section. Faraday's Cage (talk) 13:24, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-republican Mairuitius

Could somebody please write what Mauritus's name was before it turned republican in 1992? "Dominion of Mauritius" redirects to the article on the island's history but I've never heard of a dominion of that kind... --Jaro7788 (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tambalacoque tree (called calvaria in the article) relationship to the dodo controversial

As noted in the articles about the dodo and the Tambalacoque tree, it is no longer considered a given in the scientific community that the dodo was required as a disperser for the tree, and also Calvaria is a synonym, not the correct name. In addition, the sentence has a grammatical error. 65.203.128.130 (talk) 23:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dodo is more than part of Mauritian culture

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The Dodo is or was also a living animal, it deserves its own section. The amount of text dedicated to the Dodo is just about the same as the rest of the culture articles. Someone write a few more lines about the animal and there! we got a brand new section :D (James Wong 15:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheJae (talk • contribs)

The information on this page about the Dodo bird's name origin contradicts info that is on the Dodo wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.226.82 (talk) 17:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Swahili language in mauritius

In the LANGUAGE section of this article i noticed that the "Swahili language" was added as a minority language which is spoken in Mauritius and as an african language taught in school. This is not true as Swahili language does not even exist in Mauritius, the person who added this should provide citations for verification or the line about Swahili language should be remove completely. Kingroyos (talk) 17:09, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The rupee (sign: ₨; ISO 4217 code: MUR) is the currency of Mauritius. It is theoretically divided into 100 cents; however, as at October 2011, only 5 and 20 cent coins, are currently in circulation, the latest mintage of these two coins was in 2010. A Half Rupee coin is also in circulation.

The rupee was established by law in 1876 as the local currency of Mauritius. The rupee was chosen due to the massive inflow of Indian rupees following Indian immigration to Mauritius. The Mauritian rupee was introduced in 1877, replacing the Indian rupee, sterling and the Mauritian dollar, with the Mauritian rupee equal to one Indian rupee or half a Mauritian dollar. The pound was worth 10¼ rupees at that time. The Mauritian currency also circulated in the Seychelles until 1914, when it was replaced by the Seychellois rupee at par. In 1934, a peg to sterling replaced the peg to the Indian rupee, at the rate of 1 rupee = 1 shilling 6 pence (the rate at which the Indian rupee was also pegged[2]). This rate, equivalent to 13⅓ rupees = 1 pound, was maintained until 1979.

90.198.27.247 (talk) 12:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The usage of 'England' to describe Britain is incorrect. The Napoleonic war was fought by Britain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.190.217 (talk) 20:51, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 December 2011

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On the Mauritius government list of officuials, the No3 in the government, First Vice Prime Minister Xavier-Luc Duval, who is also Minister of Finance is not mentioned. VPM Baichoo is second VPM and No4 in the government

196.192.13.81 (talk) 08:53, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 19:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

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The result of the discussion was Merge, no discussion after a reasonable period of time

I propose that Law enforcement in Mauritius be merged into Mauritius#Law. The article is very short and the section is almost empty and need expansion. --Mrmatiko (talk) 16:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mauritius#drug issues

The section Mauritius#drug issues added by User:Secretmi should rather be move to a new article for ex.Drugs in Mauritius as it has is done for other countries on wikipedia. Secondly, the section has multiple issues: It is written like an editorial or opinion piece which require cleanup, its content are hightly defamatory without any citations for verification from reliable sources. I propose this section to be remove completely if it is not improve.Kingroyos (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Popular Culture

A historical novel written by Patrick O' Brian and titled The Mauritius Command is set during the Napoleonic wars and the events surrounding the capture of Mauritius by the English. ^[1] Keilmich (talk) 02:06, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No more links section

There is a "do not add more links warning" at the end of the editing page, but given that some sections of the article have a "need expansion" tag is a bit contradictory. In order to add relevant information to several of the sections that do need expansion the addition of external links is kind of necessary. Specially for those sections that have information from PDF official reports or websites.... any solutions? Loupiotte (talk) 19:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 August 2012

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Oceangirl3000 (talk) 12:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC) Sega dance comes from slavery. Slaves used to sing sega dance to forget about their worries and pains. Sega music was a way for them to express their feelings. Some of the sega songs talk about the history of their ancestors and their sacrifices. Sega is about telling a life story or giving a word of advice. Nowadays, Mauritians sing those songs for fun and to remember their heritage.[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. FloBo A boat that can float! 13:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Country size 180 vs 181.

Article says the country size ranks at 181, but the link says 180. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.162.156 (talk) 03:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality - Rule of Law

I believe this section, particularly "...and trials are fair. The legal system is generally non-discriminatory and transparent. Expropriation is unlikely. Enforcement of laws regarding intellectual property rights is relatively effective." not to be impartial. I stumbled on this article by chance and really don't have any research or knowledge on the subject, but this doesn't look right, no sources either to back up these claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknowntbeast (talk • contribs) 01:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the reference [1] from The Heritage Foundation, the link to the required reference was change. I will add the new link and remove the neutrality template, if ever you think its not good, i'll re-add it and continued the discussion.Kingroyos (talk) 08:15, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, with the reference it is better, but I guess my question is, is the tone right? Yes, what is written in this section is the same from the that website, they way it is written doesn't sound right to be used on Wikipedia. Would it not be better to say "According to heritage.org, the legal system is considered to be generally non-discriminatory and transparent. Mauritius is one of Africa's least corrupt countries, with the Independent Commission Against Corruption investigates offenses and can confiscate the proceeds of corruption and money laundering." I would say adding the bit about expropriation and intellectual property rights is really not needed. Unknowntbeast (talk) 20:00, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you are right, i also think about this earlier, i have changed it now.Kingroyos (talk) 04:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have further edited this section. Reference 15 was no longer working. I changed the wording and added reference 17 for the independence of the judicial branch. I believe it is better now, all that's left to do is expand it. Unknowntbeast (talk) 06:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mauritus Wildlife

I have noticed that some views expressed are rather one sided. These are shown below:

"The coast guard is under tight budgetary constraints and does very little patrolling, they are also reluctant to enforce existing laws with creole fishermen as they are deemed un-prosecutable due to their indigenous status. The coast guard is a department in name only..."

Is that true?

JLindsayD (talk) 08:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hahahahah so not true and non-factual. No one is above the law. The budge part is accurate, although citation is neededJames Wong 06:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Vikash Dhoraso

Sorry, if I have mis-written the name. I noticed that under the "Indo Mauritian" article, he has been considered to be an Indo-Mauritian. Is that so? As far as I know, he is of French nationality. JLindsayD (talk) 11:07, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are somewhat correct. I suppose the original author meant his Indian background. Am not sure if he should be referred to as a Franco Mauritian? not sure how these definition works. Maybe someone with more knowledge can shed some light on this topic?James Wong 06:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheJae (talk • contribs)

tourism section - grammer

Could someone reword the last sentence of the first paragraph under "Tourism" ? It makes very little sense.

this sentence - "The hosts are being seen product and the "hospitality atmosphere" has more and more as the nucleus of the tourism been receiving increasing attention."

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubiks6 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 20 December 2011‎

Edit request on 6 July 2013

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Mauritius is not the least corrupted country of Africa continent. with the actuall prime minister Navin Chandra Ramgoolam there are manuy corruptions taking place but there are no answers to the population. The police hide proof and everything. you can go to the defimedia.info website to read some news or on this facebook page to see how the popoulation is angry https://www.facebook.com/groups/radio1mauritius/. thankyou Truemauritian (talk) 05:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article does not say "the least", it says "one of the least", and cites a reasonably reliable reference, whereas your claim does not. Materialscientist (talk) 05:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism - Promo

The entire Tourism section is taken out of the MTPA documents, which are by design WP:Promo. The sub-article header reads so much better. This section should be re-written to reflect.Truther2012 (talk) 19:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 23 August 2013

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Small change. The Index of Economic Freedom for 2013 has been out for a while, so this page can reflect that. Also, wouldn't hurt to source it, right? I've also added an additional sentence to give the uninformed some information on what that figure means, but that can be taken out if it's too specific for the larger country page

Please change "according to the 2012 Index of Economic Freedom, Mauritius is ranked eighth worldwide." to "according to the 2013 Index of Economic Freedom, Mauritius is ranked as having the 8th most free economy in the world, with a world-leading score in investment freedom. EconomicsFTW (talk) 04:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC) Done, with minorly adjusted wording. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2014

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The official language of Mauritius is English. So this: Official languages None

should be changed to: Official languages English

and English should be removed from vernacular languages Source: [2]

Not done: The article (and a couple of discussions above) states that since the constitution (or any other law) does not clearly declare any given language as official, there is no official language. Indeed, there are many credible sources (including yours) that claim English as such, but there are also many others that claim the opposite. In my view, in this case, a specific law would be a definitive source. Things get more complicated when we consider that English is not even a common language. --Truther2012 (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Map

The current standard for the wikibox maps is to use the SVG Globe; this may or may not (it generally should) include a smaller boxed off area in which a close-up of the islands (either from the same file or a related one) is shown. The wikibox does not need to include a very detailed and/or close-up map as the article (and related articles) include those kinds of maps. -IkonicDeath (talk) 1:54 PM, February 24th, 2014 (PST)

There is no particular standard for maps on wikibox, for big countries the SVG Globe is undeniably the best, but for small countries the infobox should at least show both the position and shape of the country, not just an insignificant small dot only. Indeed if you look at small countries article's you will see that nearly all of them use a close-up map which include a world map locating the close up. Moreover the map which you are using doesn't include islands which Mauritius consider to be part of its territory. It would be good if we could have a globe map with a close-up of all the islands, but given the small space of the infobox and the distance of the different islands are too far, it's impossible to do such a map, unless the real position of these islands is distorted.Kingroyos (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The solution is to simply add a boxed off area in the corner that's a close-up, and for the islands to far away from the main one to be shown in a sub-box, indicating they're part of it, but to far away to be shown accurately; additionally territorial claims of countries are not shown in the wikibox, only the territory legally part of the country is or, in the case of unrecognized or partially recognized states, the territory they have continual control over.

-IkonicDeath (talk) 3:44 PM, March 3rd, 2014 (PST)

Football is National Sport

Recently there were a couple of back and forth changes of the article around the national sport. According to a number of printed sources, including the following: Mauritius: Rodrigues, Réunion by Alexandra Richards p.90, Mauritius - ten years after independence by the Jean Claude Nourault p.270, History of the Muslims in Mauritius by Moomtaz Emrith p.255, the national sport of Mauritius is football. If you have better sources, please share. Also, a football club website does not constitute a reliable source. --Truther2012 (talk) 14:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truther2012 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit wars are really not the right way to solve this. Please provide better sources (than three printed sources above) clearly saying that the football is NOT the national sport and this will go away. Btw, not saying that does not prove anything and no, laws and constitutions have nothing to do with the issue either. --Truther2012 (talk) 14:16, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Truther. I value your interest in our country's affairs. There is no mention of football as the national sport in our constitution. Here is the Sports Legislation Act and the 2002 Amendment Acts. These documents are hosted and managed by the Ministry of Youth and Sports. I appreciate you've taken the time to look for printed sources to back your speculations.

The aforementioned football website is the recognized body which oversees Football in Mauritius - which is also mentioned in the above legislation documents. I agree Football is a sport of great interests to the majority of the population, you are however using the term 'national' way too loosely. Football does not belong, does not relate nor does it represent Mauritius. Football is only a national past-time and shall be noted as such. —James Wong 08:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheJae (talk • contribs)

A national sport does not have to be declared by constitution or any particular law. For that matter, I don't think any constitution declares any sport as such. The absence of mention of it being a national sport on a given website is hardly a valid reference. At the same time, at least three printed references saying it is. The moment you produce a valid reference (preferably printed) saying it is not, or that some other sport is, this argument is over. --Truther2012 (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It has been over a month since this well-sourced fact was flagged as "dubious". Since there were exactly zero sources provided to oppose something well documented in at least three secondary printed sources, I hereby close this discussion and remove the "dubious" flag. Next time, please, provide sources!--Truther2012 (talk) 13:42, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Truther, as I mentioned, it's current wording is misleading. Football does not belong, does not relate nor does it represent Mauritius. I welcome you to re-phrase this sentence at your own discretion. Someone with a neutral input on this matter please have your say. James Wong 13:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Here is a brief quote from Wikipedia's National sport - A national sport is a sport or game that is considered to be an intrinsic part of the culture of a nation. If you consider Football anywhere remotely 'essential' to the Mauritian's identity then you are hopelessly biased against other forms of sports such as horse racing and the fine athletes our country produces? With the latter representing us at Olympic level? You have to agree that the phrase - Football is the national sport of Mauritius - is misleading. James Wong 13:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

The main point here is that we have sources saying it is the national sport and that's that. Whether it represents something bigger or not is irrelevant. I am happy to accept your point, but you really need to show sources explicitly saying that it is not so. On Wikipedia sources is all we have. Anything beyond sources is considered OR and has no place here. You could be right, but without sources backing you up, it means nothing.--Truther2012 (talk) 14:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PPP per Capita (New figures for 2013)

Hullo, My skills as far as editing is concerned are quite limited si here's a link to the IMF site for the 2013 figures on PPP per Capita including those on Mauritius, that now stands at $16,056,063

Link: [3]

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish2542 (talk • contribs) 22:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics

Hi all, the statistics provided are wrong. See the latest governmental population census [4], the table D5 shows a total population of 1,196,383 while the article shows differently. The correct numbers should be the following:

Hindus = 50.15 % - (Total made from table: 599988/1,196,383 * 100)
Christians = 30.50% - (Total made from table: 365050/1,196,383 * 100)
Muslims = 17.85 % (Total made from table: 213583/1,196,383 * 100)
No religion = 0.72% (Total made from table: 8,634/1,196,383 * 100)
Buddhists = 0.43 % (Total made from table: 5264/1,196,383 * 100)
Bahai and Jewish = 0.2% (See table)
Other religions = 0.15% (See table)

I am therefore making the amendments. Pritish.Seeboo

Reply; The calculations about religion percentage was made by me. This is why i precisely indicated the page used when providing this reference [5] (page 68), the figures which you are using (page 67) are for the island of Mauritius only, while the one which i used is for the whole republic which include other islands. Even though i have already clear the misunderstanding, here is how i got these figures;

No religion = 0.7092399279764104% (Data from table: 8,772/1,236,817 * 100)
Buddhists = 0.4264980187044648 % (Total made from table: 5275/1,236,817 * 100)
Christians = 32.70500001212791% - (Total made from table: 404,501/1,236,817 * 100)
Hindus = 48.53806181512706% - (Total made from table: 600,327/1,236,817 * 100)
Muslims = 17.29827452242328% (Total made from table: 213,948/1,236,817 * 100)
Bahai = 0.521499947041479% (Data from table: 645/1,236,817 * 100)
Jewish = 0.0034766663136099% (Data from table: 43/1,236,817 * 100)
Other religions = 0.1483647136156764% (Data from table: 1,835/1,236,817 * 100)
Not stated = 0.1130320815448041% (Data from table: 1,398/1,236,817 * 100). Kingroyos (talk) 19:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of Bhojpuri Language in infobox

Bhojpuri is the second most used language at home in Mauritius, see census 2011 page 8 [6], it is even more popular than French and English, so please STOP removing it from the infobox unless a reasonable explanation is given for its removal. Kingroyos (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

From what you have posted as reference it shows that Bhojpuri is a language that is losing its popularity. As shown in the citations on page 8 it mentions that "More people now speak Creole and fewer speak Bhojpuri and the Asian languages. Out of every 10 Mauritians, 8 reported that they spoke only “Creole” at home in 2011 as compared to 7 in 2000. Bhojpuri which used to be spoken by 12% of the population in 2000 was spoken by only 5% in 2011. ". Also Bhojpuri may be more popular then french and english but that does not make it vernacular. Vernacular means Native to an area. Since Mauritius was uninhabited before its language depended on the nation that colonized it. Mauritius was owned by the French therefore the french language become vernacular among the educated. Then there was the evolution of Mauritian Creole and finally English was introduced when owned by the British. These are the 3 vernacular languages. Had the Dutch held a stronger possesion of Mauritius Dutch may also have been a vernacular language. A good example of this would be North America. The vernacular languages there are the aboriginal languages such as Cherokee, Cree or Iroquois. However more people speak English in North America. This does not make English Vernacular. English is Official but not Vernacular.The Vernacular language of North America will always be the aboriginal languages and never English. Hope I cleared things up for you and I do apologize for editing without giving reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shteeluck (talk • contribs) 22:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So even if Bhojpuri is still the second most used language at home, we should not consider it as a vernacular language just because it is losing popularity? Also you are contradicting yourself when you said English and French are native to Mauritius just because it was colonized by French and British. This section is for languages use by Mauritian in their daily life to communicate with each other (the First language), and i can assure you whether you like it or not, that Bhojpuri is the second most used language after creole, this is further confirmed by the 2011 Census made by Statistics Mauritius. So, please stop removing it from the infobox without finding a consensus on this issue. Kingroyos (talk) 06:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You don't get what I am saying read the part where I talked about North America's vernacular language. I am saying English and French are vernacular because before colonization there was no one living in Mauritius. Therefore it was when colonized that it had vernacular languages. I don't think that Bhojpuri should be added in the vernacular languages at the beginning. However since it is still fairly used we could talk more about it under the languages section of Mauritius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shteeluck (talk • contribs) 09:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The vernacular means the language spoken as one's mother tongue; not learned or imposed as a second language. In fact in Mauritius, some people have been bought up speaking two First language, that is Creole and Bhojpuri (especially in villages). What happen during the census is that they are given only one choice for their mother tongue, some of them choose Bhojpuri only while others choose Creole only. Some Mauritians also uses only French or only English as their mother tongue, despite they are quite limited, we should still consider it as a vernacular for Mauritius. On the other hand, the most popular Second language used by majority of Mauritians are French and English.Kingroyos (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE MAKE SURE NOT TO REMOVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING LANGUAGES. BHOJPURI IS A LANGUAGE FREQUENTLY USED IN MAURITIUS. IT IS MOSTLY CONCENTRATED IN THE RURAL AREAS WHICH CONSIST OF 179 VILLAGES AROUND THE COUNTRY!!!! PS. —Preceding undated comment added 18:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

USE THE OFFICIAL 1972 census, See page 88, See Creole and Bhojpuri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritish.Seeboo (talk • contribs) 19:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from changing the Vernacular languages by removing bhojpuri from it. Please see the link to the CIA country report. See Under section Languages: Creole 86.5%, Bhojpuri 5.3%, French 4.1%, two languages 1.4%, other 2.6% (includes English which is spoken by less than 1% of the population), unspecified 0.1% (2011 est.).CIA Report. English is not the official language but only in parliament. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritish.Seeboo (talk • contribs) 21:04, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

African?

There are some references to Mauritius as 'African', but the basis for this is not stated. Geographically and geologically it is not part of the African continent or continental shelf, and ethnically it seems to be more Asian than African. If the basis for the description is political, e.g. membership of the Organisation of African Unity, maybe that should be explained.109.150.6.214 (talk) 13:48, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it, there are no indigenous inhabitants, only colonials, even though the article does not state that. The French brought African slaves, while the British brought "indentured" (i.e. tricked into working) Indian labor. Slavery was made unconstitutional in 1832 on anywhere on British territory, thus any slaves had would been freed many years before then. The Maldive Ils are the only remote Indian ocean islands that have an indigenous population. (Timor and Madagascar cannot be considered as remote.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.220.104.163 (talk) 02:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Please include a link to 'Arthur Hamilton-Gordon, 1st Baron Stanmore' (there is an existing Wikipedia page for him) to properly identify 'Governor Gordon' in the following:

"The labourers brought from India were not always fairly treated and a German, Adolph von Plevitz, made himself the unofficial protector of these immigrants. He mixed with many of the labourers, and in 1871 helped them to write a petition which was sent to Governor Gordon." 92.251.157.227 (talk) 13:37, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Rivertorch^FIRE _WATER 13:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Contradiction!!!

there is a contradiction between the opening paragraph stating that English is the official language and the demographics section saying there is no official language but that English is an official language in parliament. 79.71.106.77 (talk) 17:37, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It means there is no preferred language for teaching, communication whether it's for professional, legal or just casual. However a designated official language for the parliament serves as a sign of respect for the governing body and authority that it represents (Law and order). It may also be some remnants of old British colony's way. Someone with clearer idea how this rule came to be, please enlighten us. James Wong 16:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be a contradiction in saying that there is no official language. the most used language being english, it can be said that english is the official language of this country. (111.92.6.131 (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC))[reply]

An official language law demands that all formal documents (wills, citations, etc) must be in one of the specified languages. A Parliamentary debate language does not constitute an official language for the entire country. For example, in Western Samoa official languages are Samoan and English. Parliamentary debates must be in Samoan, although Samoan is not always adhered to.203.220.104.163 (talk) 02:05, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The sources listed for the languages only list English and French, not Tamil or Chinese. Yet these are listed as national languages on this page. This seems a direct contradiction IMO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.122.228 (talk) 05:23, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Transcription of Hindi name?

The "Etymology" section says the common name of Mauritius in Hindi is मॉरिशस. This name should probably be accompanied by a transliteration in the Latin alphabet, for the benefit of the great majority of readers for whom the Devanagari writing system is meaningless. Based on my very sketchy understanding of this script, I believe this name would be transliterated something like mauriśasa, but I would feel more comfortable if someone who really knows Hindi could confirm and add a proper transliteration. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 05:53, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Google Translate says: Mŏriśasa. I'd say it's good enough, what do you think? Truther2012 (talk) 21:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know Hindi, so I have no basis for an opinion on this. If we can get someone who knows Hindi to comment, that would be best. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 22:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

its mauri-sh-ous (maurishous) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.211.56.2 (talk) 09:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Religious Statistics

Hi all, please see the link attached to official Hansard papers through Mauritius parliament (national assembly)[7]. The prime minister has answered to a question from MP Mohamed (see page 14-16) where he has stated that the government officially recognizes the 1972 population census. Lets not try to give out biased information by other sources. Please see the link to the 1972 population census For religious breakdown, see page 80-. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritish.Seeboo (talk • contribs) 18:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend sticking to the CIA world factbook figures, unless some more modern statistics can be found. The religion statistics are not mentioned in the census summary. These were changed recently away from these figures arbitrarily without reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NadCymru (talk • contribs) 15:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Content in the Intro

It has been noted that contents along with its references is being removed persistently by a particular User. I would be grateful if a consensus could be reached for each and every sentence which is remove. Please give clear and valid reasons for EACH sentence and not the intro as a whole. Cheers. --Kingroyos (talk) 15:14, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingroyos: You will have noticed that I painstakingly left all the references even when I trimmed down the introduction and left the recent data on the International Court of Justice. @Discott: agrees with me. On the UK article you don't have a whole section in the introduction on Northern Ireland same for the introductions of India and Pakistan, you don't have a whole paragraph on Kashmir. You are giving undue importance to an issue in the introduction of the republic of Mauritius. Some rational behaviour would be welcomed.

Manish2542 (talk) 20:00, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tamil

@M.K.Dan and Manish2542: please discuss the issue here and stop editwarring. Thank you.--SharabSalam (talk) 18:47, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tamils consider themselves as a separate religion from Hindus. Don't remove cited information. If there is no section for Biharis, the Telugus and Marathi, the Franco-Mauritians, the Chinese and the Creoles, then you can create it. You can't remove the section meant for Tamils. Also, as per 2011 census, there is no religion in the name of Biharis, Marathis. The 'Tamil and Tamil Hindu' is the fourth-largest religious group and is what people like to identify with. --M.K.Dan (talk) 18:56, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@SharabSalam: We have been discussing it on our respective pages. He doesn't seem new to this game.

Manish2542 (talk) 19:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Manish2542 the discussion should be here not in your talk pages. I feel like if you are sending emails to eachother. You need to respose in the same talk page even if it's your talk page or his talk page. The discussion should be in one place so that someone can follow the conversation. Thank you.--SharabSalam (talk) 21:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion should be here. --M.K.Dan (talk) 06:20, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Content

User:PuffinSoc recently remove Content about the Chagos and Tromelin in the intro, claiming that this is 'my pet issue' and i'm Spamming about it. I just want to make it clear that it is not 'my pet issue' or whatever you want to call it. The Republic of Mauritius considers Chagos and Tromelin as part of its territory. The excision of Chagos before independence of Mauritius is a violation of United Nations' resolutions and the deportation of its indigenous people is a breach of Human rights. Mauritius has continuously and vehemently raised this issue in international forums including the United Nations. Recently Mauritius initiated proceedings against the UK under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) to challenge the legality of the ‘marine protected area’ in Chagos as it considers Chagos as part of its territory. If you think that this is only 'my pet issue' and should not be included in the intro about territory then you are wrong.Kingroyos (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:20, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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RfC on Tamil and Tamil Hindu

Should the information about Mauritian Tamils, be included in the article? --M.K.Dan (talk) 03:33, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that it should be included. This article is becoming increasingly religio-centric. If there's going to be information about a certain community, it should be extended to all communities, not just one. And, all of this is just going to add unnecessary, bulky information to this article. By the way, there already exists separate articles, like Religion in Mauritius, Demographics of Mauritius, amongst others, where such information can be added and further developed. It is also worth noting that the Republic of Mauritius is a secular state. It does not endorse any particular religion. The government doesn't constantly affirm that Hinduism is the "official" or majority religion of the country. The article already mentions that Mauritius is multi-religious and multi-cultural, which is what the state aims for.

To answer the main question, I don't think there is such a thing as "Tamil Hinduism", as a different religion. Maybe that's just a Mauritian fabrication. I believe it's more of a cultural distinction within the same religion. Whatever has been referred to is essentially Hinduism. Cavadee is not only celebrated by the Tamils, but also by other communities. Some of the references given are also not from reliable sources.

Overall, I think that if someone wants to expand or elaborate additional information related to the demographics of Mauritius, they should do it in other specific articles, some of them mentioned above, that have already been created for such purpose. Otherwise, this article will be excessively centered on religion. We would want to keep that moderate, for Mauritius is first and foremost a secular state.

I just wanted to voice my ideas, thank you. --Starts (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"If there's going to be information about a certain community, it should be extended to all communities, not just one" - How many religions are there in Mauritius? Mauritius Tamils consider themselves as "Tamil" only and they consider "Hindu" to be the term for North Indians. I don't think other Indian ethnic groups consider themselves to be a separate religious group. Thus it is worth mentioning. If you believe the reference is not from a reliable source then I can add other references such as from Google Books. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=rlJWDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA211&lpg=PA211&dq=Mauritian+Tamils&source=bl&ots=FLTHHp5Drz&sig=ACfU3U2Jws0o8PqC0-QpXN9p3OTanARa1A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi2hbv9oJbkAhVEuI8KHUJoC5o4ChDoATADegQIBhAB#v=onepage&q=Tamil&f=false

It is also worth noting that the Republic of Mauritius is a secular state. It does not endorse any particular religion. That's why it is necessary to mention about Tamils along with Hindus. --M.K.Dan (talk) 12:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Starts: @M.K.Dan:

Tamil is not a religion but an ethno-linguistic group. In Mauritius like elsewhere, they form part of the Hindu community. Broken down in ethno-linguistic terms, Tamils represent 6% of the population. Not worth special mention. The fact that Mauritius is the only Hindu majority country of Africa is a noted fact. Mauritius being a constitutionally secular country doesn't change that. Noone is implying that Hinduism is the state religion. Manish2542 (talk) 01:54, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Tamil is not a religion" - I have cited sources that Mauritius Tamils consider themselves to be a religious group other than Hindu. And no one claims Tamil as the official religion of Mauritius. The constitution of Mauritius grants freedom of religion to its citizens, including Tamils. You can't falsely add "Tamil" to "Hindusim" to make Mauritius a Hindu majority country in Africa. M.K.Dan (talk) 12:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tamil isn't a religion, and at 6% of the population, not worth special coverage in this article. — AReaderOutThataway ^t/_c 10:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Correct spelling

Names of individuals should be spelled correctly.

"Maurits van Oranje" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fliteshare (talk • contribs) 08:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The part about the oil spill is probably talking about Greenpeace instead of "greenpece". 2600:6C4E:1200:1E85:181D:ADD5:4909:CE83 (talk) 20:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: section on science and technology

Hi, just a suggestion, many country articles have sections for 'science and technology', this could be a section on this article as well.

Thanks

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Change population density ranking from 10 to 21 as per current data on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density Northodog (talk) 18:40, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^ O' Brian, Patrick (1977). The Mauritius Command. London: W. W. Norton & Co. ISBN 0-393-03704-5.

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