Talk:Martha Moulsworth

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Did you know... that 17th-century English writers Martha Moulsworth and Alice Sutcliffe are each known for a single literary work?

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The result was: promoted by Vincent60030 (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Martha Moulsworth and Alice Sutcliffe, two writers of the English Renaissance, are each known to have written only one literary work? Moulsworth: Although the Memorandum is the only text (besides her will) written by Moulsworth that is known to survive …; Sutcliffe: … her only recorded work, Meditations of Man's Mortality, or, A Way to True Blessedness (1634) …

Reviewed: Milton (electoral district) (Currently exempt, but likely won't be shortly, given that I have a bunch in the queue).
Comment: Can't think of another reasonable hook that links the two authors together, so have only included one. Very much open to suggestions! Flagging that I've sourced hooks for both to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, which is paywalled (unless you have a UK public library membership, I'm told).

Created by AleatoryPonderings (talk). Self-nominated at 20:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

*Perhaps just in case the double hook proposal doesn't gain traction, you can also provide at least one separate hook about each of them? I'm not sure how common it was for writers at the time to have only one known work so I'm not sure how suitable or "hooky" the current proposal is. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:03, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Fair point re: 'hookiness'. Some idividualized alternatives are below. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:24, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~… that Ben Jonson wrote a poem to introduce the only known book by Alice Sutcliffe? You can see the original manuscript here! Wonders of technology …~~

… that the only known copy of Martha Moulsworth's autobiographical poem was found inside a commonplace book that belonged to Marmaduke Rawdon? The Memorandum of Martha Moulsworth, Widowe exists in an apparently unique copy …; Catalog entry for the book at the Beinecke Library, listing Rawdon as the owner

Comment I like the original hook best, but the current wording suggests this is positively known about them, where it seems to be "as far as is known", or "only surviving" etc. Johnbod (talk) 01:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AleatoryPonderings: These two articles are new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the articles are neutral and I detected no copyright issues. I suggest rewording the hook to ALT1. A single QPQ has been done, you now seem to have 10 DYK credits, so perhaps you could do another. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: I've also done Template:Did you know nominations/1942 Betteshanger miners' strike; happy to do another one besides that if helpful. I like alt1—thanks for the suggestion! Struck the other hooks above for clarity. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 12:23, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly reconsidered. How's alt1a? It was arguably OR for me to call them writers of the English Renaissance, as I don't have that fact specifically cited inline. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 12:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ~~... that the two English Renaissance writers, Martha Moulsworth and Alice Sutcliffe, are each known for a single literary work?~~
Alt1a ... that Martha Moulsworth and Alice Sutcliffe, two 17th-century English writers, are each known for a single literary work?
Thank you, approving Alt1a. Extra QPQs are always helpful, there are over 100 nominations to choose from! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]