Talk:Mark Watson (soccer, born 1970)

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group.

United States: District of Columbia / Washington / Seattle Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Washington, D.C. portal This article is supported by WikiProject District of Columbia (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Washington.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Washington - Seattle.

Football: American & Canadian / England / Sweden / D.C. United / San Jose Earthquakes / Seattle Sounders Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FootballWikipedia:WikiProject FootballTemplate:WikiProject Footballfootball articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Associated task forces:
/
	This article is supported by the American and Canadian soccer task force (assessed as Mid-importance).
	English football portal This article is supported by the English football task force (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by the Swedish football task force (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by the D.C. United task force (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the San Jose Earthquakes task force (assessed as High-importance).
	This article is supported by the Seattle Sounders FC task force (assessed as Low-importance).

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 23:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Mark Watson (Canadian soccer). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:04, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 March 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that Mark Watson (Canadian soccer) be renamed and moved to Mark Watson (Canadian soccer player).

result:
Moved. See consensus below to alter the qualifier to Mark Watson (soccer, born 1970). The English footballer's qualifier shall also be altered as suggested below; however, since there was no move-request notice placed on that article, it is seen as a technical move request. There is no prejudice if anybody objects. Kudos to all editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 17:39, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Links: current log • target log

This is template {{subst:Requested move/end}}

Mark Watson (Canadian soccer) → Mark Watson (Canadian soccer player) – "Canadian soccer" sounds a bit weird like its a separate sport like "Canadian Football" and "American Football" for the non-round ball football. There is another player who is English whose page is at Mark Watson (English footballer), which is why the nationality was added, but I think player should be added to match better.

Alternative would be to use year of birth as is standard for other players of the sport and move to Mark Watson (soccer, born 1970) and Mark Watson (footballer, born 1973) for the Canadian and English player respectively, but I think the single move adding soccer suffices.

Although he is a manager now, so maybe simply Mark Watson (soccer) would work better. RedPatchBoy (talk) 22:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. RedPatchBoy (talk) 22:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose WP:NCSP does prefer the nationality as the disambiguator in this case, so Mark Watson (soccer) would not be an adequate title. And as you mentioned, Watson is no longer a player, so Mark Watson (Canadian soccer player) would not be more accurate. While I agree that it looks funny at first glance, it does appear to be the correct title as per policy. If this is moved, you'd be looking at changing more articles, for example, Bobby Smith (Canadian soccer), George Anderson (Canadian soccer), Jeff Clarke (Canadian soccer), etc. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 23:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move back to Mark Watson (soccer), the article's original title, which has redirected back to this article with no problem for over 10 years. A hatnote is already in place for the footballer. WP:CONCISE. - Station1 (talk) 02:55, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to YOB - Mark Watson (soccer, born 1970) and Mark Watson (footballer, born 1973). Also we never use 'soccer player' as a disambiguation. GiantSnowman 12:44, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this alternative.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:35, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this alternative. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:49, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this alternative as well. "(soccer)" is insufficient per Special:Permalink/959873230#RfC: Does WP:ENGVAR suffice for disambiguating footballers from soccer players?. Using the year of birth here is conclusive per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer) and addresses the problem raised by the nominator. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 16:20, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.