Talk:Manchego

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(semi)curado

Manchego is available in three different states of maturity: Fresh (fresco), 3-4 months old (curado), or matured for one year (viejo).

Other sources seem to say it's semicurado up to six months and curado thereafter. Anyone know for sure? Flapdragon 02:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both ways are OK, but the denomination in the article (fresco, curado, viejo), is a bit more the "classical" or traditional way, and the other denomination (fresco, semicurado, curado), is a bit more like the "marketing" approach, but nonetheless, widely spread. So it's more of a personal choice, I would choose the traditional way, but I guess both should be on the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.154.219.97 (talk) 14:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most shops have four classifications: Tierno, semi-curado, curado and viejo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.217.101.249 (talk) 23:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lobster Taste

Does this cheese have a slight tinge of lobster to it, or is it just me? Thanks. - MSTCrow 03:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get lobster, just a little lamb. If I did, I'd like it a lot more. All in all, I find it pretty underwhelming considering how much I've heard about it lately. 69.85.180.112 21:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's too bad. I find it delicious! Maybe you're not getting a good one. S —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.180.228 (talk) 03:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I could see where you might have perceived a lobster taste, --and only after I tasted it while thinking of lobster so it might have been a false association. As for the "underwhelming" comment: I only think underwhelming might apply if the tongue was expecting a distinct taste. I find the taste of this great cheese as very complex and as such I would advise people to enjoy it with a clean palate and mild accompaniments. Cheers! Anthronify 04:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

As of June 10, 2007, this article has no sources at all. I added an 'unreferenced' template to the whole page, and a 'fact' tag to the statement that this was the first cheese ever made. Please don't remove the tags until the concerns are dealt with. Anchoress 22:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The small object served with the Manchego

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have some idea about what the small pestle-like object served with the Manchego cheese and the crackers in the picture titled ``El Trigal Manchego``? It seems I have never seen anything like this in all the cheese servings I have seen. Once I got what it is, I guess I can help to add some link and reference for it.

It doesn't appear to be anything specific to Manchego; there are other pictures from the original source which have an image of this in the background. E.g.: http://pdphoto.org/PictureDetail.php?mat=&pg=8574 Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 00:30, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reference to the picture. Interesting, maybe some kind of cheese serving tools? 128.42.103.18 (talk) 03:44, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction in PDO ageing requirements and varieties of Manchego

The Manchego#PDO_requirements section says the ageing requirements is "minimum of 60 days (30 days for cheeses weighing up to 1.5 kg)", but shorter times are mentioned in the Manchego#Varieties section. William Avery (talk) 11:26, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

According to the numerous websites that I could find, it turns out that both statements are correct. The PDO definition in the source is exactly as written (although there was a new addendum which I updated the reference to), and a number of sites agree that both fresco and semicurado can be aged for less than that. Strange, I know. :) I was able to find a source that explicitly stated that the fresco was not a true queso manchego due to its lack of aging; the semicurado age range, on the other hand, only slightly overlaps the minimum and therefore (I am guessing) would be mostly legitimate. I have added the references that I found to the article as well. CThomas³ (talk) 03:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Adding history and/or process of manufacturing sections?

Thoughts on adding a history and/or process of manufacturing sections to the article? History would provide context to historical and cultural significance. Manufacturing could be interesting as it would contrast artisanal vs industrial processing, and would involve some chemistry. I was thinking using this as a source: ^[1] Tlevit (talk) 02:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://books.google.ca/books?id=D6whAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA193&ots=3xQNpnI0qP&dq=manchego%20cheese%20history&lr&pg=PA199#v=onepage&q=manchego%20cheese%20history&f=false

If you have access to a copy of the book, sounds like a great project. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don Quixote

I edited this page recently to reflect the English spelling of Don Quixote, using an x instead of a j in order to maintain consistency in the article. This was reverted on the basis of the regional usage that requires a j. However, the article right now only refers to the specific character of Quixote with no mention of a specific brand. If there is a specific brand that uses the j spelling, this should be mentioned to clarify the difference in spelling. As of now, this article is needlessly confusing the spelling of a fictional character. Sebastianbrody (talk) 19:39, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was the one who backed out your edit. The specific sentence in question: In Costa Rica, three companies (Dos Pinos, Los Alpes, and Monteverde) produce a manchego-type cheese (queso tipo manchego), which can come with a drawing of Don Quijote on the labels. If you click on the reference (14 at the moment), you will see it explicitly shows "Quijote", *NOT* "Quixote". Using the "x" spelling in that context is a mis-spelling. Tarl N. (discuss) 23:11, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I'll note this explanation isn't new to you. I explained it in detail (more than here) on your talk page, and you deleted that comment (here) before you made this one. If you wanted to argue with me, you could have done so on your talk page, complained on my talk page, or on this page referenced my comment, asking for other comments. When I went to look for my earlier comments, I wondered if I had somehow put my comments on someone else's page - and only found them by looking at your page's edit history. Tarl N. (discuss) 23:19, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I thought a productive discussion of the article should occur in the talk page of the article in question and not on my talk page, a space that I don't even use. I still disagree with your assessment as it still does not clarify that a specific brand is being used nor does it even acknowledge the different spelling, but I don't intend to argue further nor have I complained.Sebastianbrody (talk) 02:02, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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